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#6 blurp: "...The human warlord Angrif Djun, more furious than ever, prepares a massive assault upon every elf living on the World of Two Moons..."
#7 blurp: "...a dire threat surfaces..."
#9 blurp: "...But Cutter’s greatest concern is Angrif Djun’s massive war fleet, which seeks to crush all elves and their allies..."
#10 no mention in the blurp, but we get to see a dying Angrif and his fleet on the cover
#11 blurp: "...Angrif Djun’s war fleet invades the Wavedancers’ waters..."
#12 blurp: "... just as the Wavedancers deliver dire news: the Djun’s warships have arrived..."

oh and this:

#11: "...as a shattering moment of truth occurs between Cutter and Timmain..." so maybe we learn this shattering truth in this issue (or in #17, who knows).

Even though it's a nice gesture, that Angrif's troops are still honour his final wish and attack the elves nevertheless, humans don't react this way. Normally they would turn and figure out, who's going to be the next king (as the Mongols and the Huns did). Just name one historic example, where an army continued an attack even though they knew their leader was dead.

Had a dream last night that I had just finished reading #11, set back, put it down, and was immediately posting how much better it was than #10.... just hit me it was a dream....

Wiseshaman wrote:

Tymber wrote:

Redhead Ember wrote:

KR Wordgazer wrote:

Hmm.  Somehow I missed that.  That means Dre-ann or whatever his name is, could have come at any point and have been in the Palace for some time by the time Skywise introduces him.

True. I suppose he just went into the Palace and hid somewhere... it's pretty big...

Or it's poor, inconsistent writing.

((Wendy I mean...))

That's a hilarious image!

Lunakat wrote:

We know some significant amount of time has passed-- because Tinga grew up and Shukopeck had a bunch of kids. Skywise has been shuttling people to and from the palace (note- Moonshade)-- so he's clearly been in the loop as to the goings on there. That's how he knew about Silent Guy. Silent Guy showed at sometime during this indeterminate time period. He's clearly shy and lacking in social skills. Skywise had to pull him out to introduce him because he wasn't the sort to think of stepping outside and saying "hi" on his own.

It's not that complicated. It's not the most riveting turn of events-- but it's not nonsensical either. It's a basic transitional issue. Stuff happened-- stuff is about to happen. This is just the point where the story turns a corner.

I guess that's (a large part) of my complaint. Readers are being forced to assume a lot of things. To me, it felt like Moonshade popped out of nowhere. Then the strong silent guy pops out of nowhere.

To me, it feels like I am missing pages out of a comic book. Like I am reading issue #10, and when I turned to from page 8 to page 9, I feel like there's about 2 pages of comics that's just missing. Because things are just being "shoved" in our face to say, "Oh, I didn't show you all this cool stuff of Skywise in the pod - but he picked up Elf A, B, C and D - and they're in the Palace."

We don't even see them disembarking the pod or anything. Absolutely NO indication how they got there. They're just suddenly there.

It feels very, very lazy.

(I would say rushed, but there's some elements of this Final Quest that I feel like have dragged on way too long)

There's an over all lack of feeling like anything's building up to something. It just feels like someone is writing all these elves, and they're all just there...

All of that said, I feel like I am repeating myself. And that's probably not good. I think I've made it clear how I feel and I just need to shut the frick up and wait for issue #11 and so on and comment on them as they come out!

That said, I am also very glad that you're getting something out of these issues, Luna. And sorry for ranting and rambling so much! I swear this will be my final word on this issue (unless asked specifically about something!)

TrollHammer wrote:

If, indeed, FQ is only 24 issues, well that puts a whole different slant on the pacing for me.
I had thought that the story arc for FQ would be quite a bit bigger than what would fit into 24 issues.
I had wondered about it before,but until I read Manga's post about a 24 issue limit (quoted in another post), I didnt want to assume the worst.  It tells me that MAYBE they dont have the page-space to dwell on some of the relatively "minor" stuff (stuff that used to make the OQ so interesting and fun to read) to get the meat and potatoes finished by the end, if you will.

The Original Quest ran 20 issues. Just 4 less than Final Quest.
The Original Quest was their first real dive into comics (not sure if Wendy had done writing elsewhere).
And the pacing of the Original Quest is infinitely better.

The Original Quest was broke into "arcs."
The arcs were (I feel) -
1. Issues #1 through #5 (Lose home to life at the Sun Village)
2. Issues #6 through #10 (life fast forwarded w/cubs to Forbidden Grove)
3. Issues #11 through #15 (The entire Blue Mountain Saga)
4. Issues #16 through #20 (the fight against the frozen trolls for the Palace)

The Final Quest?
So far it feels like:

Arc 1: All the elves take their sweet time getting to the Palace, while over here Ember and Tier are going on and on about Recognition, and then she gets captured, and then the humans prepare for war, and let's go back to the Palace, oh by the way - all these elves arrive. And hey, new reader - look, Timmain and Skywise are Recognized! What do you mean you have no idea what that means? Or the impact?

I think you make a very good point (I forgot to quote it), that Final Quest makes NO attempt - ZERO! - to even ease any NEW readers to the series. So if someone decided to pick up ElfQuest: Final Quest, for the first time, never having heard about ElfQuest but thought the art looked great - would have NO idea from it's very first issue to understand WHAT was going on.

No. I'm thinking 40ish years between Discovery and issue 1-9.

First of all the three years between Discovery and the birth of Korafay.
Then 20ish year timeskip in the Special (from the births of Shukopek and Korafay to the deaths of Ikopek and Ruffel).
Then the timeskip between the end f the Special and the beginning of issue 1. At first I thought it was less than a year - with Moonshade basically going into the Palace and not coming out until Strongbow begged her to in the beginning of issue 3. Then I thought that maybe a few years had passed. Then Shukopek turns up again and he looks old!
Finally we have the 10-year timeskip between issue 9 and issue 10. According to Wendy there'll be no more timeskips after this.

BTW: You might wanna more your quote outside of my quote. Like this:

TrollHammer wrote:

Redhead Ember wrote:

Tymber wrote:

Redhead Ember wrote:

Aaah! But it's been probably around 40 years since the Wavedancers were "scared ittle tuna fish", they've got plenty of time to grow tough.

Since Discovery or whatever? Because still hated them there...

Yeah, since Discovery. Seems like at least some of the scared little tuna fish mentality back then stemmed from how they were being led by Surge.


Didn't know tuna fish were especially scarredy by the way.

I thought it was meant 40 years between #9 and #11, as it looks like the Djun is aged and on his death bed on the cover.

Tymber wrote:

Redhead Ember wrote:

I don't really think it's necessary to hide spoilers anymore. It's been almost two weeks since issue #9 came out, and there'll always be someone who haven't read certain things. Seperated threads for each issue doesn't make sense to me either; after all we don't just discuss the events in issue #9 (or whatever) but things that happened in earlier issues as well as what might happen in later. We've already had a lot of discussions about what might happen in issue #10, and I'm sure as soon as the cover for issue #11 is published we'll go nuts again.

But maybe for issue #10 - and future issues - we can make any agreement to hide any spoiler stuff under the spoiler-tags for the first week.

I think everyone does it different. For me, I run a website for the New Warriors comic (granted not being published at the moment) - but the general rule was 30 days for spoilers. (Basically until the next issue came out). Some people can't make it to the store the first week or two that it comes out (whether lack of funds and what not). So having a "general" thread, where they may want to discuss something in issue #8 (from an ongoing thread within a general one), may on accident see something that happens in issue #9.

So individual threads, I think work the best. As for "what might happen in issue #10" - that's all speculation. So that's normal conversation - but at least it's contained within the thread about the issue that's trigger that speculation.

Although, as a side note, I eventually found a PHPBB add in that allows you to highlight text and put it in Spoiler tags - so you can't see it without clicking it.

It wasn't so much potential spoilers for future issues I was referring to, as the fact that we'll just never be able to talk about just the specific issue a thread is dedicated to.
As for spoiler-tags; we got those already!

SPOILER!!!!!:

G0lden wrote:

I'm glad Wing and Aroree settling things between the two. Teir and Ember seem to be on the same page for now.

You mean Windkin. Wing is dead.

Redhead Ember wrote:

I don't really think it's necessary to hide spoilers anymore. It's been almost two weeks since issue #9 came out, and there'll always be someone who haven't read certain things. Seperated threads for each issue doesn't make sense to me either; after all we don't just discuss the events in issue #9 (or whatever) but things that happened in earlier issues as well as what might happen in later. We've already had a lot of discussions about what might happen in issue #10, and I'm sure as soon as the cover for issue #11 is published we'll go nuts again.

But maybe for issue #10 - and future issues - we can make any agreement to hide any spoiler stuff under the spoiler-tags for the first week.

I think everyone does it different. For me, I run a website for the New Warriors comic (granted not being published at the moment) - but the general rule was 30 days for spoilers. (Basically until the next issue came out). Some people can't make it to the store the first week or two that it comes out (whether lack of funds and what not). So having a "general" thread, where they may want to discuss something in issue #8 (from an ongoing thread within a general one), may on accident see something that happens in issue #9.

So individual threads, I think work the best. As for "what might happen in issue #10" - that's all speculation. So that's normal conversation - but at least it's contained within the thread about the issue that's trigger that speculation.

Although, as a side note, I eventually found a PHPBB add in that allows you to highlight text and put it in Spoiler tags - so you can't see it without clicking it.

I don't really think it's necessary to hide spoilers anymore. It's been almost two weeks since issue #9 came out, and there'll always be someone who haven't read certain things. Seperated threads for each issue doesn't make sense to me either; after all we don't just discuss the events in issue #9 (or whatever) but things that happened in earlier issues as well as what might happen in later. We've already had a lot of discussions about what might happen in issue #10, and I'm sure as soon as the cover for issue #11 is published we'll go nuts again.

But maybe for issue #10 - and future issues - we can make any agreement to hide any spoiler stuff under the spoiler-tags for the first week.