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PostSubject: The quest comes to an end   Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:24 pm

Hey everyone Smile
Forgive my writing, I have taken no fancy writing classes and I'm having a hard time putting everything I'm feeling about this into words. I suppose it's mainly melancholy, but who knows.

It's been nigh on 20 years since I first picked up an Elfquest comic book. It was my big brother's. It was called "Ulverytterne" (Literally "The Wolfriders". I believe it's "Fire and Flight" in English)

From the moment Cutter and his wolfriders charged in to save Redlance, I was hooked. I was a child with no money, but I wanted to know more of the story. It took me many years and a lot of searching (and my brother giving me his issues, 1-5, as a present) before I finally had issues 1-13, 15-19, 21-61, the Dreamtime stories and a couple of English collections (Hidden Years, Jink, Rebels and a few more off the top of my head). It was only a few years ago I got my hands on 12 and 15!

Maybe an explanation is in order, mind you, to make it short I will be cutting a few corners.
See, in Denmark, Elfquest (under the name "Elverfolket") was published 1-61. We weren't lucky enough to get the fancy names like "Siege at Blue Mountain", "Kings of the Broken Wheel" etc.
Originally, 1-20 was published. I fail to remember how many were published by Interpresse and when exactly Carlsen Comics took over, but the end result was that Elfquest 1-10 was published a second time, 11-20 was not and 21-61 is widely available.

This meant that, when I was growing up, the price of Elfquest 11-20 was much, much, much more than I could afford. The few I could get my hands on were either old library editions or really messed up ones, neither of any interest to collectors. Unfortunately, most people in Denmark who had 11-20 knew what they were worth and treated them rather well Sad

I started getting older, growing up. I went through my teenage years and into early adulthood with issues 21-61 and slowly started becoming disillusioned with the series on a whole.
Wendy's illustrations no longer seemed as magical, the story was no longer as interesting. To me, it felt more and more like Elfquest was being kept artificially alive or if that's too harsh, it just no longer held the creative magic that had been present in 1-19 (as mentioned, I never had number 20). I don't think this was just due to me growing up though. I genuinely feel like the story got progressively worse following the original quest. The art definitely went downhill following Siege at Blue Mountain.

Then one day, my parents got me The Searcher and The Sword and some album with the wavedancers for my birthday. The art was horrible. It looked computer animated and there was no soul invested in it.

Wendy's art was what entranced me in the first place. Before I could read well I would just sit and leaf through the pages, marvelling at the visual storytelling she had created. With that gone, Elfquest fell off it's shelf in my heart.

It's now been some years since I last cared. I've been helping my parents clean up their house this summer and I found my old collection of Elfquest in some boxes I was moving into the attic.
I couldn't get myself to move them into the attic though. Between the love I (still, I'm realising) have for the first 19 issues and the sheer amount of time I spent on the forums (RIP), I like having them around. The forums were a huge part of my formative years and a place of solace to an early teens geek who didn't have much of a social life. Putting them in the attic would be a shame.

It's just a shame I never got to finish it. Never had "Quest's End Part 2". Or as we call it "Paladset" (The Palace).

I guess the point of this whole topic is that, today, I went to a Danish market. I've gotten really into Thorgal recently, so I've been leafing through the stalls of used comic book salesmen to find cheap issues of it.
I didn't find any Thorgal that I've been missing, but I stumbled across it. Paladset. Quest's End Part 2.
I stood there looking at it for a couple of minutes. It brought me right back to the forums. The games, the debates, discussions, RAGEFILLED ARGUMENTS (Oh Woebringer. Please tell me someone remembers him). But most of all, the feeling of all of us being our own little (big) holt.

I ended up buying it. I can't believe I will finally read it after all these years. I don't know what to expect but I'm incredibly excited about Elfquest once again.

So in summary, my very own Original Quest is coming to an end.
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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:41 pm

*HUGS*

Missed you!!!
I remember Woebringer. Jeeze do I remember him. He was certainly a character! (that was me being diplomatic, mark the occasion on your calendar, it doesn't happen often!)

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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:40 pm

I remember Woebringer. I remember everyone who was there in the early days (I think!)

Geez Jeppe-- that was so well expressed. I can relate to everything you said (except reading Danish!) thank you.

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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:28 am

Nibblet and Lunakat! Haha, I was worried about who would be on these forums, I haven't been here much. I really admire that Kindred took the time to set up and run these forums as a way for us all to stay in touch and keep the fun going, but it feels like a lot of people got lost in the transition? (Or maybe they'd just already left after I did Sad )

That being said, I read it last night. Didn't brush up on the last couple of issues before number 20, just jumped straight in!

At first? A little bit of confusion.. I think from being on the forums, I'd gotten so used to the English names I was like "Wait, who're they talking about again??".

That being what it is, WOW! I stayed up for a while after finishing it, just going back over all those Cutter/Skywise scenes. Amazingly well done!
Absolutely loved it.

And, as much as I hate open endings in general, if EQ had ended after issues 20, it wouldn't have been too bad. That last page really does seem like she wrapped it up right there, with a lot of storylines having reached a good conclusion and the Wolfriders and co. going on another adventure. But what do I know.. I was having trouble remembering Elf names!

I guess I should give Siege at Blue Mountain a second chance and see if it really is downhill already from there.
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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Sat Jul 09, 2016 5:36 am

Well, who could forget Woebringer?
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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:04 am

@Redhead Ember wrote:
Well, who could forget Woebringer?

lol!

I always found it interesting how, in the midst of such a progressive community and considering that he was a fan of EQ, with the values/morals/etc. the series protrays, he could hold the views on the world he did. To me it seemed like a paradox.. Although now that I'm older I feel like he may have just been attracted to Elfquest for different reasons than my own.
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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:22 pm

OFF TOPIC ALERT!

I just wanted to say that I remember the kid you used to be. 14-ish? Still focused and had more conviction in your chosen path than most twice your age. I was proud to know you then, the silly little kid you were. You always made me laugh, I always looked forward to your posts and your youthful outlook on life. It was refreshing to see. And now I see how far you have come in those few short years (to me, I'm old, time flies quickly!). I have watched your career take off and seen you progress into the most grounded young man I have the pleasure of calling my friend. You, good Sir, are an inspiration and a joy to know. I'm so proud of you Hug

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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:02 pm

I've never known how old you were Jeppe! You always seemed ageless to me. You have always stood out as someone who made thoughtful and intelligent comments and (like the rest of us, I'm sure!), I've always appreciated you being part of this little online community.

As a side note-- I was always also very proud of how we collectively handled Woebringer. Woebringer came in to stir the pot, make some trouble and get everyone riled up-- but we had a really great culture and instead of being pissed off at him, embraced him and teased him into coming around and he ended up playing along and being one of us in the end. We could have gone the other way and been exclusionary and mean-- but no one was. And I think, ultimately, he felt good about being the Woebringer that he was and contributing what he contributed.

That was what was so great about the original forum and all the folks on it. We had different views-- but we dialogued really well-- everyone was respectful and diplomatic-- we didn't try to shut each other down. It was very nice overall.

And the discussions were really interesting. I always looked forward to logging in! You know-- I ended up with a couple of very good, real life friendships because of the forum. I met one of my best friends here-- someone I just adore. We got a lot out of it. And it sparked my creative writing again.

Anyways-- I'm also glad Kindred made the spot. And I'm glad Jeppe is here again too. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:30 pm

@Luna, I think the forum really shaped me in that way. Maybe learning to socialise with people of many, many different ages and nationalities (but all older than me) is why I've never had a problem holding a conversation since. If so I owe more to the forums than I remember Smile

Not 100% about the age but I was definitely early teens.

I find it hard to stay invested in these new forums. There's nothing wrong with them and some of my favourite forummers migrated, but there was just too many lost in the progress it doesn't feel like home anymore. I'll still check in from time to time, but the days of posting half a billion posts a day are long gone (I guess most of the spam kings and queens are not here anymore either?)

I miss the real discussions though. There was always so much bloody passion and knowledge sharing going on. And there was so many people a discussion would always be running when I logged on.

@Nibblet are we friends on Facebook? I feel like we might be, but there's so many on there I never see a third of them (side effect of my profession). And I don't really use facebook much anyway..
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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:31 pm

Where the heck is Kindred btw? Her and Wordgazer are supposed to be my forum moms.


Hrrmf.
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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:05 pm

yup
https://www.facebook.com/Nibblet
thats me!

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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:20 pm

@Nibblet wrote:
yup
https://www.facebook.com/Nibblet
thats me!

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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:47 pm

@Jeppe wrote:
Where the heck is Kindred btw? Her and Wordgazer are supposed to be my forum moms.


Hrrmf.

*gives a pat at the back of your head while walking by*

I'm here cub Wink  My work schedule bumped up to full time hours now with 2 jobs, but just like every "mom", I got eyes in the back of my head and always watching Razz

Hope you know how incredibly proud I am of you as well I love you  And I'll never forget the wild and mischievous antics you and Bloodwake always had in the original forum.... you two were such hilarious cubs together!

(side note: don;t care how old you are... you'll always be "cub" to me) Laughing Laughing Laughing

I truly hope we see more of you here in the future!

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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:45 pm

@Jeppe wrote:
@Redhead Ember wrote:
Well, who could forget Woebringer?

lol!

I always found it interesting how, in the midst of such a progressive community and considering that he was a fan of EQ, with the values/morals/etc. the series protrays, he could hold the views on the world he did. To me it seemed like a paradox.. Although now that I'm older I feel like he may have just been attracted to Elfquest for different reasons than my own.

Or perhaps he just liked trolling everyone...? And I think we all remember Woebringer!
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PostSubject: Re: The quest comes to an end   Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:48 pm

I was too late to be on the SoC at its prime. Part of the Firstcomers had left already or become rare guests when I got active - an elderly newbie who felt like a cub. I remember some good years, still feel the support and positive spirit of the tribe and made friends.

I was reading alot of the old discussions and learned that there can be a place where strong opinions meet, contradictionary points of view are discussed ... and the people still work together as a community. In a way I grew up in the SoC too, no matter how old I already was. Well, part of me did grow for sure.

I was in awe of the artists, captured by the writers, baffled by Woebringer and ... yes, I remember Jeppe. I wonderd about the strange "inconsistencies" in his posts. Thoughtful and smart the one ... whimsical or simplified the other. I've learned only years later that Jeppe was one of the youngest cubs of the tribe. Wink

I'm glad you found back to ElfQuest - and to Kin's new Scroll. sunny

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