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PostSubject: So who's Winek anyway?   Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:32 am

Not sure if this goes in this part of the forum or in the "Character" part...

I was wondering- let's presume that Winnowill will get healed eventually, and she and Rayek decide to stay together and just share one body. What would the resulting person be like? Would they just continue to be two completely different persons, constantly chatting among themselves and acting like whoever is in the driver seat, or would they reach a form of harmony in which they essentially become one soul over time?
Anyway, the resulting person would be interesting to say the least.
There are certain things that are really likable in Winnowill's character- she has this schoolgirl-like capriciousness and curiosity, and say what you will, but she's sure creative with that flesh-shaping skill! Apparently she also has a strong need to use her powers- lack of work is basically what started her off on the path towards insanity. If she ever gets healed she will have to deal with a lot of guilt.

Poor old dour and insecure Rayek could gain a lot from her. But he adds to the mix a need to protect, a somewhat malfunctioning sense of honor, fiery temper, and a need to show off. And probably also a lot of guilt after all the stuff he has screwed up over time...

What both have in common is courage, and independence.

Put together, I see a superhero type elf who wanders (flies?) the world of two moons helping victims of wars and disasters, human, elf, troll or animal alike. Someone who wants to makes amends, and does so with sass and style. Huge powers, indeterminate gender, and a general all-round bad-ass.

I think I feel a fan-art coming on...
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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:01 pm

to be perfectly honestly, until i read the post, i saw the title and thought, "Winek...Winnowill's brother" XD

personally i'd like to think they'd end up being like Wingthings Kitfire....two souls in one body, bound closer together than any recognized pair could ever be. as described in one story, "They supposed the best way to describe it was a braided leather rope. The two pieces were separate, but bound together – more tightly in some places than others. Stronger for being joined, but always distinct."
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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:20 pm

let's see if this works.
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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:39 pm

Elwing, I like your art better than most of Wendy's lately! cheers Great style!

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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:42 pm

Well said, Storm! That's gorgeous, Elwing Shocked ... *bows*

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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:28 pm

nice pic.

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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:28 pm

nice pic.

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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:52 pm

Good analysis of their characters and the blended personality you describe is intriguing. The art is awesome. But I can't get behind an androgynous Rayek. Just not half as much fun, if you ask me.

Speaking of asking me, if you ask nicely I'll dig up the picture someone did for a fanfic concept I was noodling with where Reformed!Winnowill changed (with permission) Rayek into a female elf to gestate a new body for Winnie.
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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:28 pm

Oh please... _OxO_ ...please dig up this picture, manga! This would be awesome.

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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:43 am

Please do, Manga!
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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:40 am

Elwing, awesome picture, very yummy Scouter

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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:04 pm



"Greetings and welcome to the restored Palace of the High Ones," Leetah smiled warmly at the newcomer. "What is your name? And, if I may ask, who are your people? You seem to share traits with my kin."

The stranger was watching her oddly. "I'm Ray--" she began, then winced and placed a hand on the gentle swell of her belly. "--Nill," she finished. "Raynill."

(That's about as far as I ever got with the story. It was truly cracked - I'm not sure which is more warped, really, Elwing's Winek or the story of how Rayek gave birth to Winnowill's new body. The problem being that Winnowill, deciding she'd made a serious botch of being a mother, has decided to be male this time, leaving Rayek with the choice to remain female if he hopes for a Recognition with her or resume his birth body and give up that dream.)
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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:10 am

It's an interesting concept- but if elves could carry new bodies for deceased loved ones you would think that would be done more often? I can see how the gender swapping would make some readers uncomfortable, but I don't mind it. And it has already happened in Rogue's Curse.
Though it is not clear if this was just a cosmetic change or if it involved the internal organs so to speak!
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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:37 am

I'm not entirely sure that Recognition isn't just that - an elf spirit choosing to reincarnate in the body they find most suitable.

In any case, this is only supposed to work because of Winnowill's healing magic. It's not like Ember could just decide one day to host a new form for Krim, not without Leetah there to set things up. I really thought this was where Wendy was going, based partly on that line from HY#9 where Haken says "Our kind doesn't die. We build new bodies for ourselves!"
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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:21 am

It could still turn out that way. But then again- it would not be easy to write. if this were happening the elves would know it? Nice art by the way. Do you know who the artist is?
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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:06 am

I think the elves would know it IF the reincarnated spirits were ones they knew in life. But a) I don't think every Recognition is a reincarnation and b) not every reincarnated spirits from the same time or tribe.

Unfortunately I seem to have lost the name of the original artist. I think she (or he) might have gone by Spider or had Spider in her name.
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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:36 pm

Awesome drawing - elegant and harmonic. I especially like the flow of the black tresses. So true for a female Rayek ... and still holding traits of Winnowill. And a nod at Leetah ...

Thank you for sharing, manga. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: So who's Winek anyway?   Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:07 pm

@Elwing wrote:
let's see if this works. -> image


Moar?
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That's an interesting drawing. Indeed it is very androgynous. Still sharp and defined as Rayek but with a soft "edge". Pleasant to look at, quite an inviting pose and that glance of... her? him? adds the final touch. Mercy! Or better: Merci? Wink

And all with that classic car/motorcycle-ad-pinup-style. Neat!
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