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Yeee wrote:

So without further ado, she got a rough-tough outfit with a Monster High tunic (this is supposed to represent a rat's paw), an old cut-up gold chain, and a treasure chest from our "Tedi" store.

She was searching for a good place to hide her treasure...



"Oh, a sandbox! " she squealed, "that's just the place I need!"
She's been living with me ever since.

I figured Id mention a few things I learned to minimize printing artifacts. Theres plenty of videos and other how tos out there, and many more knowledgeable than I am, but I still like thinking about these things.

Different filaments will result in different finishes and can be post-processed differently, and I've learned they have some different ways to get the most out of them. Some of these methods do run the risk offending some people's senses (odors) or raise alarm bells (chemicals or whatnot) use your judgement on what is acceptable for you.

PLA: for figures and other "non use" items this is my go-to. It can be printed at almost any speed, and certain types have really great results. My first printing experience was printing a fox miniature and a DnD skeleton guarding treasure using Ovation PLA Silk in plain white, and they came out amazing. Only issues seemed to be on the last layers, and Ill get to that in a moment. PLA is a really low temperature plastic, and hot glue will melt it. A trick for sticking things is to use a "3D Pen", which amounts to a tiny hot glue gun sized to use printer filament. They can be purchased for $30 or so and use the same filament used in the original print, making such repairs, changes, additions and whatnot fit in better and with more control. Using PLA in general I have had good layer adheasion and smooth layer transitions compared to others. The only major down side I have had is lower durability: any shock can break it easily (brittle) and it flows when under pressure- if a joint/socket or a cover for something is initially snug and tight it will relax over time and get loose at the contact point. Interestingly, this makes running screws into it good in that the material will flow around the threads and get better over time, but the clamping force on the screw head backs off as the force pushes the material away.  There is supposedly a way to vapor smooth PLA but I dont remember what the solvent is to be used. In theory, a heat gun could help too, but I have have messed up prints with a little too much heat gun.

PETG: I ended up running a lot of PETG after the first roll of PLA, as we got a pack with a lot of colors, so it sas around almost exclusively for a bit. It felt like a mistake at first, because the stringing was horrible and required a lot of worm to fix later, but I learned how to optimize the print settings and fix this a bit, and a flash of a heat gun removes what bit of stringing is left. I have not found a solvent that will smooth it, but found the standard methods (below) help drastically, az well as printing very slowly. I seem to have trouble on my printer with "inside dimensions" more than any other and have not figured out if its the material or printer settings: if I print a tube, say with outside dimension of 1 inch and inside diameter of 0.75 inch, the print outside will be nearly perfectly 1 inch, but the inside diameter is always around 0.005 inches or so smaller than what I sent to it. I think this is due to the material 'dragging' from the nozzle while still hot, which wraps it tight on the outside dimensions but draws it in for inside dimensions (I mostly model and make more mechanical/functional designs than organic shapes, so bearing surfaces can be frustrsting to get right). The other thing with this is, while it seems to be a usual practice to sand prints to remove defects and hand fit parts together, for me sanding makes the surface 'fluff up' and get a worse fit, using a drill to ream inside diameters and holes likewise has a less than desireable effect (the plastic stretches out of the way so a half inch bit clearing a half inch hole still resjlts in it being too small for a balf inch pin to fit without a press). On the plus side, though, its really durable and handles stress better than PLA. I make tools, machine parts, and game figures from it and have really good results. I have not found a solvent that will smooth it though or affect the finish, but it is compatible with a lot of lubricants, so joints can be relatively tight and still move smoothly without the plastic breaking down from most greases. (Its resistsnt to most petroleum products, in my experience. PETG is almost identical to pop bottle plastic and I have used a pop bottle as a fuel tank for a lawn mower that lasted for years).  PETG really bennefits from planning the model's orientation and using 'random layer start' for smooth surfaces, or forcing the layer start to an edge on prints that have sharp edges.

ABS: most people get their defenses up when ABS is brought up, stating toxicity and fumes and smell... admittantly I have onlh had the one roll of Ovation ABS to go from but cant defect a smell when printing with it. Its a pain to print, doesnt want to stick to the bed, and is tricky to get to print accurately as it expands and contracts greatly with heat and cold. It is, however, far better for printing stuff that is going to be used outside, and is, in theory, better for impact. It has a major benefit, though- it vapor smooths with acetone very well. If done right, the surface can be like glass, with few if any layer lines showing. It also trims and cuts predictibly compared to PETG. Again, not everyone's cup of tea, but has some good points to consider. ASA has many similar results, so Im told.

ASA: I havent worked with it but a friend of mine swears by it. He says it has all the same benefits of ABS without the smell and holds up to weather and sunlight better (like for car parts).

In general (just realized, this is all mostly for Filament (FDM) printers, but resin can benefit from some of this as well)

1) Orient the print so it is not aligned with any single motor axis. I use an Ender 3 to print with and it has a single motor movement for each axis, so my prints come out best when flatish faces are near 45 degrees to either the X or Y axis. This isnt as crucial as the Z axis, as the step smoothing is better on the Z for my printer, but the difference it made on the XY was tremendus: I made a dash panel for my wife's truck that is almost flat, but curves slightly, and with it aligned with the Y axis it had a bad wood-grain looking pattern in it that looked horrible from the stepper motor hardly moving. Rotating to 45 degrees on my printer not only fixed this issue, it printed faster, since non-print travel could use both X and Y motors at full speed in transit.

2) Don't fear the Z: I print a lot of things vertically. The panel mentioned above was printed standing on edge, which might seem counter-intuitive, but it helps with a lot of things-
     Prints faster in some print jobs, since the X and Y axis dont have to spend as much time traveling from point to another on transits. There are more Z steps, and Z axis is slower, but it always moves in one direction and doesnt backtrack, whereas X and Y will backtrack to catch things it couldnt get on the first pass.
     Less support waste: sure, the supports are taller, but especially if using 'tree' supports, they are hollow and the cross sectional area is much less. If I had printed the above panel on its back, it would have doubled the support waste. (Worse in some prints)
     Control of layer line grain (see below) I printed the above mentioned panel on its side because I liked the verticle grain that resulted.  In the case of printing figures or organic shapes, its hard to plan around, but in the rat-print in the quote above, Id tey printing the head cut in half sideways, so the layer lines would be verticle and appear to flow with hair better. This doesnt get rid of them, but creative layer lines can help add to instead of detract from a print, especially if the material refuses to smooth with other methods.
     Removal of layer line grain from horizontal curved surfaces: if I had printed the dash panel on its back, it would have horrible 'wood graining' as each step in the Z axis is a hard step and cannot be smoothed easily without some major time taken to rework the way the slicer treats these lines or increase the print quality (step height) to absurd levels. I have not had good results with smaller Z layer steps, other than to make the print job take much longer and likely to fail on bottom layers.
      Less bottom layer issues: mind you, Im not saying 'first layer' issues, I mean any layer that would be considered an 'under side' in a print job, especially those using supports. I dont know if its a common issue, but with my printer the bottom most layers on supports end up having all sorts of adheasion and finish issues, and if I can reduce the 'support' surface area using any meams, I reduce the areas with issues. Putting flat things on their side cuts down on the support contact area and this problem.

There are other benefits to printing on edge, but thats the major reasons for me.

3) be careful with infill, especially with thin outer wall prints. When designing the panel for my wife's truck I had a lot kf trial and error, and didnt want to waste filament if possible. On one print, I went with single layer outer wall and like 10% infill, and it made horrible lines through the print. It actually did  far better with zero infill, and printed it hollow (kind of like "vase mode") and, while the center deformed a bit, the outer edges and anchors I was testing came out great and it looked smooth, except for a ripple (next)

4) clean EVERYTHING on the printer. Unless your printer is in a clean room for making electronics or hard drives, it will get dusty, and the dust will affect everything. Dirty filament can cause dirt in your print, plugged nozzles, layer adheasion issues, and more. My worst issue is with the axis guides and rollers getting buildup- at one point (above panel print in #3) I thought it was clean but the finishe showed a very noticeable wave in it from dust buildup in the axis ways. You couldnt feel or or measure it, but it was very prominant in PETG. A thurough cleaning fixed it.  I also seem to have issues with the layers having some layer micro-shift at random, making the irregular layer lines like in the quote above- Im guessing the Z axis screw or belts have dust in them causing the base plate to shift a bit ar random, or my Y axis similarly has random dirt tipping the base plate at random... when the printer was new and clean I didnt notice the random shift as bad as when it has been sitting a while. (This should not be an issue with resin, but I dont have a resin printer).

5) if possible, sand, fill and paint your prints (organic shapes). The right kind of paint should fill in layer lines and smooth the print, plus you can influence the surface pattern with various spray paints (hammered, granite, flocking, flat, gloss, candy apple, iridescent, and more). Air brush can add more detail, but specifically the layer and glue lines can be hidden with filler and paint.

6) plan your print out to minimize supports and use printer artifacts to advantage: layer artifacts are addressed above, here I want to highlight breaking up the model to further help your print. If the print as a line of semmitry, consided 'cutting' the model in half along this line and setting this edge on the flat of the bed, then gluing it together later. This can be done without remodeling the object in the slicer by dropping the object half through the bed in software, duplicating the object, flipping it 180 degrees and doing it again for the other half. I did an airplane like this and it required no supports this way. Only bad thing with this method is there are no alignment features, so it relies on your ability to align the parts while glueing.

Im sure Ill remember more later, post your experiences as well.

I found the last two eggs! Trinket was already marked *found* but I don't see her egg in the nest.



Kiv
#3

#9
Little Patch
#11

I should have thought of posting the listing with the links to the character threads ... Thank you, Red!

Decided to brin "Filhe" home #3 - the girl felt so lonely in the thread of the unnamed ones (Startear named her back in the old Scroll).

Two eggies risk to become stinky
#03 - 1 eggies ... there was another named warrior in the Lodge ... and many unnamed kids
#11 - 1 eggie ... the main character must be found multiple times to fill the nest properly!

Aaah, this guy, that you suspect might be the troll-eating Roff (nest #3):



And here's this much-missed beauty, for nest #7:

Poor Lashpaw isn't feeling too well...



So, I've been trying to find the remaining egg - that I didn't hide - for nest #3, but I can't seem to figure it out. I keep thinking Mekda - she played an tragic and unfortunate role in the event - but, no...

Here's this random guy for nest #3.

Embala wrote:

Have I put her in Goodtree's thread - Again? This brainf**** becomes more than annoying. She moved - mind to look for her gain, Redhead?

I should probably have noticed that that is Joyleaf...



Here's an ugly guy who nest #3

Quick update on eggs still waiting to be found:

Nest #1:
One egg

Nest #2
Three eggs

Nest #3
Three eggs

Nest #4
Two eggs.

Remember; eggs can hide in all corners of posts.

#1 Hmmm... al that rings for red/black is Jink *blinks*


#2 Going for Bolli!

#3 Was thinking Tamia - but the background is off. Thus Tingeh might be more likely ...

No idea about color range and availabe backgrounds on this maker.

This becomes tricky indeed, Leanan . It's fun to try!
#4 - redhaired riddle ... NOT Coral. :sctach: ... must be a Wavedancer. We already had:
- Brill, Krill, No-Ripple, Foam, Moonmirror, Spray, Korafay, Fairshell and Farbright, Skimmer (of course),and Longfin -
leaves: Sandsparkle. Well, she's "dark-blonde" with blue eyes for me - but her colors are very variant. And I exclude Wavelet and Little Minnow.

#1 - Yup, I'm right. This fits for Hummer (short brown hair, brown eyes, blue neck thingy)
#2 - blonde, pink and "stormy" - Rellah ... would fit with Willowgreen, too
#3 - looks very much like Willowgreen! ... pretty sure we have not seen her so far. Tears like rain.
#4 - blonde "worrier" under the stars ... named? Hm... daring a guess: young Sapling?
#5 - blondes ... in blue with flowers in the hair - Rainbow.
#6 - "berry eyes" in the rain - pretty sure the rain is a clue - clueless for now
#7 - educated guess - Softfoot (her vibe fits better for the chiefs mate than #6)

Your beautiful maiden with the brown locks must be Shenshen - she wears her colors and human style.
And the girlie in pink must be Elona in princess mode . otherwise she has stolen her belt. XD Very pleasing color edit, Leanan.

I've bribed you to complete your "usual suspects", Kat ... and you did more!
I love to see my little darling Tywaves - the jewelry and violet top suit her well. So true to herself ... just as Ribbon. I've figured that she would go for the haze ^^ and the feather adornement is a pretty substitute for a real ribbon.
Li(anne?) is about to blaze into blue flames! Unexpected appearance and unusual design - but it works! Rainthorwen is another darling - and I've heard the call. ^^ Hope to be able to do something for her soon.

More Wavedancers and riddles to most part ... O.O Let's see what you might have for us, Leanan!
#1 - blue riddle ... my bets are on Farbright!
#2 - whitehaired riddle - must be Fairshell of course!
#3 - greeneyed riddle  - well, hairdo fits Drift ^^ ... but I go for Shimmer!
#4 - redhaired riddle ... is a true riddle. To give it a try: Coral how ChristinaRaibert colored her?
#5 - no riddle ^^ ... this must be Longfin! Too perfect. She even has sad eyes.

New lovely maker ... and Lady Venovel is a most beautiful start! *claps* Just love her expression.
Young Shuna with a curious wolf cub - lovely. And there is sweet Elmy with Twigleg! ^^ Well done!

You're a living "mers" generator, Yeee! *echoes Leanan* ... and at least YOUR auru looks pretty much like Rayek. ^^ with Yann as Cutter ... does this turn Zoom into Mermain? XD

#13 - "... - see who she is with" What does this mean, Leanan? We already had Gibra ... did we?
# 4 - still a riddle ... - but Mardu would complete the company! Thinking about it - colors fit!

new #1 - I see Wavedancers ... No-Ripple
#2 - Foam
#3 - Moonmirror for sure!
#4 - most likely young Spray
#5 - and this one ... green hair, green eyes, a next-to-nothing for skirt - must be Korafay!


You got hooked, Kat! Tynami is such a cutie *hugs and cuddles* and young change looks sweet. Was it "Stormbreeze" with the blue dress? Last not least a purring Kat! *chuckles*
Would you add Tywaves with this violet "haze" of nothing? O.O Or - would this belong to Ribbon?

I'm not familiar with the show, but those characters look great!

Thanks for the nice comments!

#12 is indeed Krim! Hint for #13 - see who she is with

#1- #3 are the chieftesses, yes. And #5 is Urda, and #6 is Yun. Need a hint for #4?

#12 - *grin* Krim at a bad-hair-day! XD Now the rest makes totally sene ...
#13 - this girlhas violt skin ... *is lost* Need a hint.

for Minyah! I your solution, Leanan.
new #1 - Time for chieftesses! and finally time for Goodtree
#2 - Skyfire
#3 - Rahnee! - I LOVE her!
#4 - could be Ember ... but the hair should be wavy and wie already have her. Lost for now.
#5 - Yun - next try ... would make sense for me . Or - ist it Urda?
#6 - and this Yun? (before Stargazer's Hunt coloring)

(had vorgotten that this maker aktually HAS white hair :rool: )

Your girls turned out fab!
Leanan looks very true - intriguing take on Dilah - intense Raven - and another lovely Greensong.
Sharktricker is a tease - Greensong a delicate beauty - and shy reluctant Aureen.

not too bad this time ... but wrong again with the current riddles. Let's try again ...
#12 My first speculation was about Urda - short (fair) hair and generally fitting top
#13 the background must have a reason - standing for magic? this and the color scheme ... makes Goodtree?

new #1 a bald head - a sunmaiden ... who says that Minyah has hair? ^^
#2 this time it must be Serrin - everything fits!
#3 but this short-haird beauty is a riddle. VERY pale ... Yeyeen?
#4 I'm lost ... really O.O ... did we already have Rillfisher?
#5 here my bets are on Trueflight!
I'm amazed that you still find easily recognizable chars in this maker, Leanan - and I love your imagination!

Lokks like I was slightly more successful this time. ^^

#1 - Brownberry - confirmed
#2 - Joyleaf - confirmed
#3 - Eyes High - confirmed
#4 - I'm obsessed with Crescent! XD Let's take her sister Freetouch - short hair is a clear hint. ^^
#5 - Ahhh ... young Satreeka again! Noticed the skin tone - thought it's just flushing/blushing.

#6 - Bethia - confirmed
#7 - Toorah - confirmed
#8 - second best guess: Dodia -Palace style
#9 - Kahvi - confirmed
#10 Vaya - confirmed 

#11 - violet eyes, a familiar necklace ^^ and a violet top - this time it is Crescent! (with long hair)
#12 - looks like Yun ... kinda
#13 - a riddle ... with sad eyes. Blond and green. Willowgreen?
#14 - Cool version of Kasleen!
#15 - and lovely Sefra comlete with headpiece.
Definitely High Ones around. Well done, Leanan!

Awww... I'm really disappointed that the first two were not Crescent and Rillfischer. I'd have liked them this way. Not so surprised for missing the others. XD It's a guessing game with this maker - and fun to "imagine". Next try:

Still going for Beloved Dead ... next idea: Brownberry!
#1 - bangs, color and necklace fit - much better than my first idea!
#2 - taking my competitive thoughts - blue eyes and flower adornement: Joyleaf? Top is still wrong - Goodtree.
#3 - Eyes High (already confirmed)
#4 - hair-do of "hazel eyes" always looked familiar - Crescent. Now the "wet" top makes sense. ^^
#5 - unsure about Gibra's eye color - going with the High One vibe of the dress!
No reason to apologize, Leanan. *bows to your effort and imagination*

#6 - auburn locks, green eyes, turquoise top with frills - perfect for Bethis.
#7 - the maker is missing a hood ^^ - Toorah for sure!
#8 - a sunmaiden with bangs, staright dark hair, brown eyes - and a prettier version of Serrin's style.
#9 - either a complete riddle or Kahvi ... judging from the eyes and the lack of maker options XD
#10 -and because this cutie must be Vaya. *pout* I want it.


Koiyeee looks awesome, Yeee! Love your white strands and the spreckles - and it fits the koi design. ^^
Yeah for the new top.  It's fantastic!

Miss Gillespie wrote:

well, who of the newer characters has depth anyway?
Although, many of the old established characters aren't fleshed out either. I mean, I like Clearbrook, but she isn't exactly a deep character. She's a type ("the wise one") and she had her 15 min in the spotlight*, but we don't really know who she is. Supposedly she's "more fun than Strongbow and Moonshade" but we firstly don't know what that means and secondly we never see that in action.

Character development doesn't even need to be in words. In can be conveyed in expression and action.
I picked up ElfQuest back when it was in the B&W Magazine format. I think issue #2 or #3 was my first issue.
It didn't take long at all for me to become attached to Cutter and Skywise. Clearly the main characters.
Redlance was my favorite by appearance. Nightfall staying with him gave so much detail to her.
Their expressions - Redlance's pained face, Nightfall's concerned look. Clearly they were in love.
http://elfquest.com/read/index.php?s=OQ/OQ02&p=8

This is something I've not seen for a long time. Everyone looks like a cardboard. They all just stand around. No one does anything that stands out - say like when Cutter got in the ol' King's face.
http://elfquest.com/read/index.php?s=OQ/OQ01&p=26

All of these expressions - and dynamic shots - simply don't exist.

Everyone stands around, or sits, in simple, uninteresting poses, giving them all the same flat personality.

And, I am the first to admit. I do hold ElfQuest to a standard. Wendy's art is unparalleled. Or was.

When I read ElfQuest - I am expecting the best. Anything less, and it's going to be disappointing.

But that's just me. I'm old. Yelling at kids to get off my lawn. Yelling at passing clouds.

Yeee wrote:

as explanation I suggest: Leetah also has a pale-skin gene next to a dark-skin gene to pass on. If she didn't, each of her children would be at least light brown. The inheritance of skin colors can lead to interesting mixtures. For example, a light-skinned couple had a dark-skinned child (without the woman cheating), so there were dark-skinned genes in at least one of the parents that showed up in the child. Parents who have parents with one light-skinned and one dark-skinned partner get a colorful mix of children. Mostly there is the typical distribution that we know from genetics, i.e. 1: 2: 1 (1x dark-skinned, 2x light brown skin (mix), 1x light-skinned.
Leetah has 2 deep brown-skinned parents but somewhere in the ancestral line (and not too far away) they were quite fair-skinned.
Well, and as a bad-tempered traditionalist, Chad naturally attaches himself to "the way" which dictates that a true Wolfrider should only be awake at night and not during the day, Which doesn't exactly help to get a nice brown complexion either.

Oh, for sure hereditary genes can pass down - light over dark. For example, both Suntop and Ember were born with Leetah's complexion, but only Ember has the darker hair while Suntop has the blond hair, similar to his father (Cutter).

But - other than tracing it back to the High Ones (who could take any shape - including animals - or any skin tone) - where would the "white" gene been in Leetah's bloodline? Because her parents aren't as old as Savah - who also bares the darker complexion. And she mentions in OQ #3, that she's the only one familiar with the "woods" - and that the "woods" are legend to the others. So one of them who was with Savah, who came to Sorrow's End, could be in Leetah's bloodline and passed before we ever got to see them, I suppose (because I don't recall Leetah's family tree tracing further back than her parents... But there's so much I've not read).

But...

I think it's absolutely lazy art/story telling to have "Cutter" back.

Just an infinitely worse, hollow, and shallow, I-couldn't-care-less version of Cutter knock off without any of the things that make any character interesting.

And mind you, I love a well written jerk. Strongbow was a well written jerk in contrast to Cutter, back in the original Quest. And I absolutely loved Strongbow.

Cutterclone is a piece of cardboard. Zero personality. Zero depth.

Elf-Kat is sprited now ... thus official as it should be. ^^ Such a precious lively little thing.

An awesome row of Kat in variant yet consistant versions, Kat.
Magigal elf Kat turned out amazing. Very pleasing design - simple enough to be dolled almost everywhere and with charming, variable details. Sweet and sassy on the "original" Magical Elf maker as well.
Pretty Pixie Kat looks like a playful cheering fly trap. I live the overknee stockings.
Beautiful portrait of a seriously annoyed Kat.
Last not least an incredibly fitting take on her on Witchdoctor. Again the overknee stockings in the boots again - for me that's her trademark!

Microed Kat seals it. Of course her teeth must show. The face of #3 looks "elfier" for me ... # 1 is more catlike. Now Elf-Kat adds to your row of Kats. ^^


Glad you appriciate, Yeee! I'm a collage maker - I've my own means and tricks. ^^

You've found a maker with fitting dots! Lots of them! Leo got company ... Yeee obviously gets used to female robes *very winnolike appearance* ... and you've dolled Kat!

This mind picture of Yeee in a white leopard dots pyjama meating the Leodots tribe is hilarious!
... and frightening Would make a gorgeous Halloween drawing!


Two years ago this girl showed up within a series of EQ dollz and OCs ... an intriguing combination of colors and style. I thought "Whoami" might be a mermaid - or some kind of demon ...



... to find out recently that she is a reptile elf! Still no idea where she fits in.

- Whoami

That's Yun with Goldruff, right?
Because if we're looking at updated profiles... Yun's is incorrect, still.
https://elfquest.com/yun/

Yun is the only known child of Skywise. However, her heart is as big as the sense of adventure she inherited, and she ended up adopting the orphaned-human cub, Khorbasi and raising him as her own.

So, this is interesting... how my view is different than everyone else's.

Let me start by saying, nothing is going to compare to the Original Quest.

Nothing.

To date, that's some of my favorite comic book story telling in ALL of comics (including Marvel, DC, Image, etc).

That said, Siege and Kings were great - but even there, I didn't care for the toothpick look Wendy went with for everyone. Everyone was suddenly super bone thin. But, I still enjoyed it. I think she was trying to evolve the character's appearances from the 70's bell bottom looks some had (namely Cutter) originally.

The stuff that followed, was... OK. Some good, some bad. A lot of the "contracted work" I didn't care for - not because it wasn't Wendy, but because it didn't feel like ElfQuest - whether that was Jink, Rebels, Wild Hunt - even some of the ElfQuest specific stuff felt off to me - like Kahvi, Two-Spear, Rogue's Curse, etc.

Then Final Quest comes along.

Pretty much the entire time - the entire time - I complained. Every issue, I was more frustrated than the last. But I hung on, waiting for that great reveal.

That great reveal was Cutter's demise (not in a heroic way, mind you) - which, already bothered me. I hate Pulp Fiction because you had a main character shot on the toilet. (Yes, I get that movie has a ton of fans. I am not one of them). Then the Cutter/Timmain soul thing.

That nearly broke the camel's back for me.

It cheapened everything - EVERYTHING - about Cutter to me.

It utterly ruined Cutter. Forever. FOR. EVER.

That to me was similar to Vader in Return of the Jedi. I felt compassion towards Vader, despite the evil we'd heard about, when Luke takes off his mask, and he had tried to redeem himself by destroying the Emperor.

Then episode III comes out - and we see him essentially murder children.

His redemption in Return of the Jedi was ruined. Because then all I could think was he was a child killer. And that's unforgivable.

But Stargazer's Hunt is announced and I say, "It's ElfQuest. I've collected it all my life."

Issue #1 comes out, I scream, shout, yell, everyone is bone thin, art looks weird. Story isn't interesting. More lame twists.

Issue #2 comes out - OK, this seems better than the first issue. More enjoyable. Getting some character moments here.

Issue #3 comes out - I find myself enjoying it. Not kidding. I still can't stand Jink. The entire notion that she becomes this futuristic character. Had I no idea of what she becomes, I'd probably more invested in her. However, knowing that she becomes a futuristic character - I also know nothing is going to happen to her. She won't get killed or die, or else that breaks... whatever ElfQuest considers a "time stream." Skywise bailing on Jink, not a surprising move. People claim "oh, nice, father of the year" - but the Wolfriders led short lives, back in the day. It probably was not uncommon that someone else raise someone's child because parents perish. And it's not like Skywise was leaving her in a dangerous situation. She was in the Palace. Safest place in the universe in his eyes. And time being whatever it is in ElfQuest, he probably thought he could make his way back easily.

Now, what I don't get is exactly why he left. That reasoning seems unclear - I mean, I get why. But I don't get what he hoped to accomplish. If Jink can just "teleport" to Goldgruff - why couldn't Skywise teleport to where ever he was going - rather than going the long route - so that he'd need a Preserver to wrap him up? That part eludes me.

And then someone in this thread mentioned Jink was the only character showing nipples all the time. And I had to go back and look. I was like, "How did I - as a dude - miss nipples?" lol Because all I ever see is Timmain barely being covered. And I only found one place where Jink's "nipples" are "visible" - and it's one panel - and I had to strain to see it - it wasn't blatantly obvious to me. Clearly, since I missed it (it's the panel before we see Goldruff rubbing his arms).

I don't get the copy and paste references folks have mentioned? I get the idea of copy and paste, but I am not recognizing where that's happening?

Is it great? No. But it's miles better to me, both art and story, in this issue - than any given issue of Final Quest. And maybe I am just thankful for that.

Although the wiped memory thing is becoming a troupe. It happened a few months back in a recent issue of New Mutants too.

My actual main annoyance is Goldruff - and not his name (I may be typoing it, don't care to check) - and Yun. These two bare too much of a resemblance to Cutter and Skywise (for obvious reasons) - but it just looks like they're preparing to write the "Goldruff & Yun Adventures" of ElfQuest to replace Cutter and Skywise with their children who bare a very, very, very strong resemblance to them. Like why couldn't Goldruff have Leetah's skin tone? Or her hair color? Instead of being a Cutter-clone. And Yun, with the Skywise head band rather than the old cloth headband she used to wear. Ugh.

Some older ones:

X-Men vs Juggernaut - http://comicreliefpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/2009-08-02_161354_102.jpg

Ka-Zar progression:
http://sierrahelp.com/forums/download/file.php?id=6127&mode=view
http://sierrahelp.com/forums/download/file.php?id=6128&mode=view
http://sierrahelp.com/forums/download/file.php?id=6129&mode=view
http://sierrahelp.com/forums/download/file.php?id=6176&mode=view

Uncanny X-Men:
http://comicreliefpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/UXM137_Color_01.png

A (lazy) coloring of Magik #3 -
http://comicreliefpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Magik_Cover-1.png

Nightcrawler that I experimented with (and like how it came out) -
http://comicreliefpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Nightcrawler_teleport_color.png

Spider-Man coloring vs Jack O' Lantern:
http://comicreliefpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tumblr_nx3w4o3mve1qzoglfo1_1280_colored-701x1024.png

You tube of coloring Spidey -




Youtube of coloring that Nightcrawler -




Punisher: http://comicreliefpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tumblr_o3qxz07hIc1rwyqmxo1_1280_color-667x1024.png

Nomad: http://comicreliefpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Nomad_Num01_Coloring-662x1024.png

Beta Ray Bill (enjoyed how this came out) -
http://comicreliefpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Color_The-Mighty-Thor-337-A-by-Walt-Simonson-659x1024.png

Guardian of Alpha Flight: http://comicreliefpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/color_vindicator.png

Fantastic Four - http://comicreliefpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2007-07-30_105408_FamilyOuting_Color.png

Darkhawk - http://sierrahelp.com/forums/download/file.php?id=6799&mode=view

Another Darkhawk: http://sierrahelp.com/forums/download/file.php?id=6801&mode=view

X-Men in the Savage Land:
http://sierrahelp.com/forums/download/file.php?id=7105&mode=view

Doesn't help ... even BoTC #3 and #4 would give only a faint hint to the knowing one. Try this.

This was a successful hunting day!

Finally! If there's no found - drag it in! ^^ Better it's brought home twice than never, Redhead.
A full basket for you, Kat! Congrats to Choplicker, Holdfast, Chot and the other Egg. ^^
A while ago? Did you have tea time with Jethel, Wolfie?   Now I can fill another nest!

Now that's a truck load, G0lden!

G0lden wrote:

Found Suntop for 5.
Found Aroree 4, Found Cutter 3, Found Shenshen 0, Found Scouter 4 and Strongbow Scouter 3.

... there's no Strongbow lying around. But the missing guy for #3 looks a bit like Strongbow and it's a dark tiny eggie. Considering your eye sight it's a likely mistake. Thanks to your hunt I can fill 2 more nests now!


Time for a new nest and fresh eggies


HyperHyper! #06

Thank you, Embala
I hope you and all you other father tree tribe mates are well!

Yeah, maybe it is his cub name. I hope so. I wonder how his name translate into German? Goldkrause? Goldkragen? Or is the ruff the bird Kampfläufer?

The art... I know Wendy does the covers and layouts and Sonny draws over them. #1 was imo okay... #2 I was hopefull and #3 is fully back to copy-paste-badness. Even the over used copy-paste FQ Sunstream is back