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I picked up #10 last week, and #11 yesterday. Personally, I am getting tired of the endless wrap-ups.

Rayek hasn't seen his parents since when? I get that he doesn't call them "Mum" and "Pops", but they don't respond like the father in Luke 15, who rejoices over the return of the prodigal son. Did they have six other kids?

The last reference I recall of Picknose, Oddbit and Old Maggoty, was a conversation between Drub and Trinket. Drub is Queen, and she orders Trinket to pick up a sword and learn self-defense. I forgot which series and which issue, but it's clear that Picknose and Old Maggoty aren't "here." Now Picknose, Maggoty, Ember and Trinket are somehow together as a royal family again.

At least Ember isn't tied to a chair. But didn't she go ahead and recognize Teir? If so, where are the results?

So I wasn't imagining that Clearbrook had a daughter.  Thanks!

I am going to speculate that she didn't die in any remarkable way.  Rain was not a powerful healer, and we don't know how if he had his healing powers when Clearbrook's daughter died.  It could have been accidental, like Rillfisher, or illness (Cutter almost died from an infected bite), or infant mortality, like Cheipar.

In Final Quest #10 (I haven't read 11 yet), Clearbrook is still exhibiting signs of resentment because of One-Eye's death.  Yet I haven't noticed her exhibit any outrage over her daughter's death.

In my Troll (opposite of humble) opinion...

The future of Elfquest was never in the hands of movie or TV executives, mainstream publishers, trade journals, conventions, merchandisers or any other business.

The future of Elfquest was in the hands of die-hard Elfquest fans - that ten or twenty percent of fans who either read Elfquest for thirty years or more, or grew up reading Elfquest, or went on Ebay to buy every Elfquest collectible they could afford, or debated endlessly in Scroll of Colors about story elements and characters, or seriously saw the Elfquest movie as something that would happen, that they could help make happen.

Take Jimmy Buffet as another example of a rock star who understands his fans, and gives them what they want.  He saw that the Grateful Dead had "Deadheads", he saw his fans wearing parrot hats, and he named them "Parrot-heads."

I always liked Jimmy Buffet's music.  If you have heard him sing a duet with another artist, in which he sings one verse and someone else sings the next, it may strike you that his voice is not spectacular, maybe a bit nasal.  He was in the industry for ten years before he recorded his first hit, and thirty years before he won a music award.  His biggest hits are over fifteen years old. But he works magic with his fans.

Buffet turns seventy next year, and still tours.  You can visit Margaritaville and Cheeseburger in Paradise restaurants, shop at Margaritaville stores, visit the Margaritaville casino, wear Parrothead clothing, support the Paradise Foundation. and read Jimmy Buffet storybooks to your kids.  I went to a discount store last week and bought Margaritaville powdered drink mix to take to work.

In a late September post in buffetnews.com, Buffet said he never got tired of playing the same songs every night.  "... there are certain songs you play every night or get killed. It’s about listening to your audience.”

He says of the recording industry, “The contracts are not set up for the artist... They count on the passion of the musician and the tendency to destroy yourself at an young age.”

That’s why he left the “industry” and established his own way of doing business.  "I didn’t have to depend on the kindness of crooks... Work for yourself so you can be yourself.”

That's the Jimmy Buffet formula for success:  Work for yourself, and listen to your fans.

I really don't believe that independent, highly successful artists in any field do everything themselves.  Has anyone read "The Four-Hour Workweek", or "The 80/20 Principle"?  Tackle the creative work yourself, and outsource everything else, from mowing lawns to fetching doughnuts.  Wendy Pini should not have to animate anything herself - there is plenty of independent talent out there.

Thanks for putting up with my ramblings.  I have read up through "Final Quest #10", and I have to go to my favorite comic store and pick up the next one.  Yes, I could order it online.  But I would rather enjoy the experience of visiting my favorite comic store, where the clerk treats me well, where the environment is familiar and inspiring, and where I feel as though I am special.

Useful thread: A Breakdown of What's What by Skya



My Try of a Reader's Guide

It's not "the ultimative reader's guide" but good enough for a smooth read. I'll give you some information about the different series so you can decide by yourself.


Original Quest
Siege at Blue Montain
King of te Broken Wheel
Dreamtime - happens shortly after the return of the Palace ... awesome Wendy art
Hidden Years #4, #8, #9,5 and #10-15 - single issues filling gaps and giving background information for the time from the return of the Palace until the main story lines SHARDS and HIDDEN YEARS start. Read before starting with Shards and the rest of HY!

Main storyline - Shards (#1 til #15) and Hidden Years (from #16 til the end) - run parallel and influence each other.
Shards #10 / HY #24 and Shards #12 / HY #25 are directly connected - read the Shards issue before you look in the corresponding HY issue - spoiler warning!

About same time as Shards and Ember's Hidden Years storyline
New Blood #14-35 - Forevergreen Arc ... no direct connections with Shards/HY but it has necessary informations about the Sunvillagers' and Windkin's fate.
Would be no fault to read New Blood #11, #12, #13 before you start the Forevergreen Arc with NB #14.

Shards #16 gathers both the three story lines and the scattered elves.

Here you should read In All But Blood - it starts with Cutter's youth, a story about his early time in the Sunvillage, a story centering on Skywise somewhen after the return of the Palace. The last is the important one: Full Circle closes a time and knowledge gap between the end of SHARDS and the following stories ...

The Searcher and the Sword - following Cutter's tribe after Shards
Discovery - follows directly SatS

... that's what would make most sense for me to read in row from EQ1 until "present time" (= The Final Quest)


NOT on Digital EQ:
The Final Quest Prologue
Final Quest #1-24


more or less parallel with SatS / Discovery
Wild Hunt - following Ember's tribe after the Shards War
Mender's Tale (unfinished) - follows Wild Hunt
Recognition (Summer Special) - continues Wild Hunt
partly retold and more or less retconed by the Final Quest #1-2

The Forevergreen Story arc is more or less continued by
Worldpool - following some chars from the Forevergreen Arc - and
Fire-Eye (unfinished)
both probably "non-canon"



Other series and single issues

Tales from the Elves' wild past
Blood of Ten Chiefs
Two-Spear
Wolfrider! - read it!
By any other name (in the Readers Collection "In all but Blood")
Hidden Years #5, #6, #7, #9
#5 Starfall, Starrise - pre-EQ1 (story about Skywise and his parents' fate)
#6/7 How Shall I keep from Singing - High Ones' arrival and first years
#9 The Enemy's Face - story from Leetah's birth and youth
Homespun (in the Readers Collection "In all but Blood")

Spotlights on the time of the Long Wait (disappearance of the Palace until Big Sleep)
Hidden Years #1, #2, #3
#1 Wolfwood - during Long Wait (centering on Strongbow - I love it)
#2 Going Back - during Long Wait (Kahvi "visits" Sorrow's End again)
#3 Little Patch - during Long Wait (Tyleet's "cub")
The Jury (?)
New Blood #11, #12, #13
Kahvi

Background story of the Wavedancers
Wavedancers Issue #1
Wavedancers
Wavedancers - lost chapters (unfinished)
... it might be less puzzeling to read it after Discovery (some inconsistencies and retconning)

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Somewhen in not too far future
Rogue's Curse - following Rayek's journey after Shards/Final Quest

Far future
Jink
The Rebles
Futurequest (unfinished)

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I have not listed EVERYTHING here!

The rest of New Blood is a mix of Wild Past, Long Wait, various Misc stuff ... many of it considered non-canon

same for Bedtime Stories

Elfquest Volume 2 - containes stories that are mostly listed and reposted in collections (ask if you want to know more ... same for stories I missed to mention)

Kings Cross - a "What-If" / alternative universe story ...

Xanth - something totally different



There is no easy way to read through - you'll have to pick when you want to follow the timeline.

As you will notice some of the stories can be found in several topics. The Elfquest Vol. 2 issues have several ongoing stories in each issue - and then and now a single one. Many of these stories are gathered in collections:

Dreamtime, Wild Hunt, Wavedancers, Rogue's Curse, Wolfrider! to mention just a few.

You can stick with the gatherings to follow my suggestions ... Elfquest Vol. 2 is a read for completation when everything else is done in my opinion.


Don't hesitate to ask in case you need more information - or help to find some issues/collections.


Welcome to the pack Enjoy and have fun! Good read!

I want to make sure this list will NOT suddenly disappear! (pictures will hopefully be added step by step)

Aldar wrote:

Allo (Large, vicious saurian creature that usually hunts alone. Covered with horny scales and slightly reddish in color.) - Rahnee's time

Bagfrog (Abodean frog) - Siege at Blue Mountain

Bear - Searcer and the Sword

Beaver/Flat Tail (Found in the forests between Burning Waste and Frozen Mountains, seen on Cutter and Skywise's original quest) - Original Quest

Black-Neck (Herd animal with black patches on its neck.) - Shards

Boar - Dreamtime

Branch-Horn (Similar to a deer) - Hidden Years/Shards

Cuphorn (Herd animal resembling a reindeer, often found on the Plainswaste around Howling Rock.) - Hidden Years/Wild Hunt

Desert Pet Cat (Leetah had one in her hut in the Sun Village) - Original Quest
- for Embala

Desert Pet Dog (A playmate to the cubs in Sun Village) - Original Quest

Desert Lizard (Found in Sorrow's End.) - The Original Quest.
At least two species exists, these are:
- Pet Lizard (Leetah had one):
- Wild Lizard

Desert Vulture (found in the Burning Waste) - Original Quest

Desert Wild Boar (Presumely a small type, found around Sorrow's End. Rayek is seen killing one, and it's probably a common prey.) - Original Quest

Ferret (Pretty much like Earth's ferrets.) At least two species exists, both in Iceholt, and these are:
- Ferret #1 - Kings of the Broken Wheel
- Ferret #2 - Kahvi #10 found
Fin-back (Herbivor saurian that looks like the duck-beak dinosaurs - Hadrosaurs - with a fin on its back. It's found in the foggy forest where Adar and Nonna lived) - Original Quest

Fire-Jaw (Bug which bite's causes hallucinations) - Hidden Years

fish #10 found

Fliptail - Wavedancers

Giant Hawks (Great birds that the Gliders ride, found at Blue Mountain, where they also nest.) - The Original Quest/Siege at Blue Mountain

Hen (Blood of Ten Chiefs: Bearclaw's time)

Hop-Digger (Similar to Earth's groundhogs) - Hidden Years

Hummer (Small bird) - Blood of Ten Chiefs: The Hummer and Buckthorn story

Jackals (Coyote-like predators found around Sorrow's End. They run in packs.) - Hidden Years

Jack-Wolf (A cross-bread between wolves and jackals, these are the mounts of the Jack-Wolf Riders) - Original Quest to New Blood (at least)

Leatherwing (Abodean bat) - Original Quest

Long-toothed cat (Pretty much as the pre-historic Smilodon) - Wolfrider!

Mallard (Just the same as on Earth) - Blood of Ten Chiefs: The Eldolil story

Mammoth (Like pre-historic Earth's) - sometime shortly after the Palace arrived on Abode, it's seen in an Original Quest flashback.

Maraeva (Massive, wormlike sea monster, with green eyes, red skin, and fangs half the size of an elf. It has arms and webbed fingers.) - New Blood: Forevergreen

Moonhatcher (Waterbird, like a duck) - Dreamtime

Mouse - Hidden Years

No-humps (Small ponies found in the forests between Frozen Mountains and Burning Waste) - The Original Quest

Nut-Catcher (Squirrel-type of creatures, these pictures might show a male and female) - Kings of the Broken Wheel

Oinky-Skrewtail (Abodean pig) - Shards

Owl for Stormcatcher only - found

Rat - Hidden Years

Ravvit (Abodean Rabbit found in Sorrow's End.) - The Original Quest #10 found

Shagback (Abodean bison often found on the Plainswaste around Howling Rock. There are actually at least two species of Shagback. The ones near Howling Rock are a much smaller species than the Great Shagbacks found near the original holt, as seen in Full Circle. Actually, Cutter and Skywise kill one of these in The Forbidden Grove, too, during the part of their journey on pony-back.) - The Original Quest, Hidden Years, Wild Hunt and more

Sheep - Blood of Ten Chiefs: Two-Spear's time.

Shell-Back (Giant armadillo known as the prehistoric Glyptodon on Earth, it's seen on Cutter and Skywise's original quest through the forests between Frozen Mountains and Burning Waste.) - Original Quest

Snake-Tail (A tree dwelling mammal, a cross between a raccoon and a ferret.) - Hidden Years

Snow-Bear (Pretty much like Earth's.) - Original Quest and beyond(?)

Spirit Maker (Poisonous spider) - Wolfrider!

Squirrel (One of these bit Cutter, causing him to go ill by the time he and Skywise first med Adar and Nonna) - Original Quest

Stag (Like our world's stags, they seem to live near the Frozen Mountains, and are sometimes used as mounts by the Go-Backs) - The whole Elfquest saga(?)

Stripehide (a cross between a zebra and a giraffe. Smaller than a zwoot, but bigger than no-humps. They live somewhere on the way to Howling Rock.) - Hidden Years

Stringtail (Scorpion, found in Sorrow's End) - Original Quest

Swordfeet (Large, bipedal reptiles, pretty much like the raptors - a dinosaur type - living on Earth 65 million years ago) - Blood of Ten Chiefs: Freefoot's time
for Kojiyumi only

Tree-Gazer (giant sloths known as the prehistoric Megatherium on Earth, it's seen on Cutter's and Skywise's original quest through the forests between Frozen Mountains and Burning Waste.) - Original Quest

Treewee (Primate-looking tree-living animal found in the area around the Forbidden grove) - The Original Quest

Tuftcat (Cat species, Stubtail was one) - Hidden Years

Whitestripe (Abodean skunk) - Siege at Blue Mountain

Wolf (Pretty much like our world's, but here I think of those with elf blood.) - The whole Elfquest saga

Zwoot (Camel/horse crossover found in Sorrow's End) - The Original Quest #01 found


UNKNOWN RACES:
Winterleaf (A fox/mongoose crossover. Tanner thought Winterleaf was his wolf friend) - Blood of Ten Chiefs

Deer from the story where Redlance earned his name.

Cat who attacked Tyleet in Hidden Years.

Would you share your list of critters, Hammer? Almost 90 ... there sould be some this list does not cover!

I've skimmed FQ #10 again ... and was captured by Aurek's entry came in mind. The narrator tells: Up from subterranean exile ... where he has held sinister energies at bay.

Does anyone else wonders about those "sinister energies"? It was not mentioned again...
Don't the Elves bother at all?
Has Aurek even mentioned this probable danger before he went in a new semi-stasis?

The Palace and most of the Elves sit right above the "sinister energies"!

Those Without Names... ... this was the thread dedicated to the nameless extras, opened by Kitt, on the original Scroll of Colors. Follow old discussions and see fanart from earlier times.

There are no bio pages on Elfquest.com for obvious reason. ^^
#10 found

Here, for reference, I shall gather and present the exact and distinct scenes of magic-use, up to 'The Discovery'.
I will show only the scenes drawn by Wendy, because her work should have precedence..
..and because they are necessarily 'canon'.


Original Quest - #1 :
: Gliding (High One)
: Sending (Wolf Send)
: Sending (Group Send : call)
: Sending (Group Send : Sharing a vision

Original Quest - #2 :
: Sending (Individual call)
: Recognition
: Hypnotic trance (on elf)
: Emotion feeling
: Healing
: Light control

Original Quest - #3 :
: Very probable shape-changing magic highly charged on object (the 'Great Sun' item behind Savah shows changing patterns) - possible mind manipulation
: Levitation (on object)
: Hypnotic trance (on animal)
: Levitation (on animal)
: Possible Truth-telling
: Mind Probe
: Information : self-levitation was thought to be a lost power, among the Sun Folk

Original Quest - #4 :
: Sending (Dark Send)
: Possible emotion control (or more)
: Information : Magic can stagnate and turn into a monstruosity
: Magic monster (COMBINING powers)
: Sending (Special, intense, intimate call)
: Sending (Special call, by monster)
: Probable Watching over (by a dead elf, over a living one)
: Resistance to Dark Send

Original Quest - #5 :
: Plant Growth
: Soul Name
: Telescopic Vision
: Mind Control (on animal, pretended
: Mind Control (on animal, confirmed)
: Mind Search + Visual Projection + Voice Projection (probable - or a special form of Sending)

Original Quest - #6 :
: 'Going Out'
: Plant Control + Magic Feeling
: Sending (Lock-Send - Challenge

Original Quest - #7 :
: Tree Shaping
: Sending (from elf to wolf)

Original Quest - #8 :
: Magic Feeling (faint - familiar setting)
: Magic Feeling (confirmed - non familiar setting)
: Mental Link
: Mental Guiding

Original Quest - #9 :
: Magic Feeling (confirmed)

Original Quest - #10 :
: Magic of the preservers' cocoons
: Sending (Special, intimate, intense call - confirmed)
: Sending (Calling back images)
: Possible premonition
: Locked warning
: Preservers: a magically created species
: Sending (Dark Send - Torture)
: Tree Shaping (living wood into an object)

Original Quest - #11 :
: Sending (Dark Send - Stun)
: Rock Shaping (dedicated - Door effect)
: Sending (Dark Send - Piercing back)
: Sending (Group call to one)
: Anti-Healing
: Sending (Dark Send - multi-targetted) + Leetah's remark on anti-healing
: Gliding (Blue Mountain's Gliders)
: Sending (Dark Send - Kill)
: Healing (as an improvised Shield)
: Probable Prying on Sendings

Original Quest - #12 :
: Information : Locked Warning is mainly made of visual elements and feelings
: Information : Shaping and Healing are basically the same type of magic
: Semi-dead state Lethargy - used to enforce dedication of magic (here: VERY dedicated and limited Rock Shaping task)
: Flesh Shaping
: Sending (Lock Send)
: Sending (Intense, focussed, forcing)

Original Quest - #13 :
: Information : Going Out comes with deadly risks
: Emotion Feeling or more
: Sending (Deep Sending)
: Soul Name abuse
: Probable HARD metal Shaping
: Information : Ancient types of magic
: Combined magic : Rock Shaping + Levitation (complex, dedicated, + History effect)
: Information : Symbolic and memory effect, for the Egg
: Information : Magical semi-dead Lethargy helped by a potion
: Information : Healing tells much about genetics
: Resistance to Dark Send (killing version)
: Complete Self-Shaping (Plant - High One)
: Complete Self-Shaping (animal - High One) + Magically induced INTER-BREEDING
: Information : Probable Mind Manipulation

Original Quest - #14 :
: Information : Recognition reveals the soul
: Sending (Dark Send) - Mind Control (Oblivion)
: Going Out (Spirit Capture)
: Sending and Going Out (Spirit Seeking)
: Flesh Shaping (on animal)
: Tree Shaping (turning strangleweed vines into a living trap)
: Plant Control
: Going Out (Mind Touch)
: Healing (Mental Healing)
: Probable Near-Death Auto Healing

Original Quest - #15 :
: Open Sending (Sharing a vision)
: Magic Aura (Visual Detection of magic)
: Exchange of Soul names

Original Quest - #16 :
: Watching Over (confirmed)
: Magic Feeling
: Hypnotic Trance (on troll)
: Gliding (rough version)

Original Quest - #17 :
: Gliding (floating someone else at distance)
: Call of the Palace (confirmed)
: Possible Premonition
: Soul Name offering
: Possible Premonition (preserver)
: Gliding (heavy charge)
: Possible Hard Metal Shaping ('fusing metal to stone')

Original Quest - #18 :
: Rock Shaping (combined to shape the Palace's stone)
: Stone Feeling

Original Quest - #19 :
: Sending (Link)
: Gliding (lifting extreme weight)

Original Quest - #20 :
: Forced Recognition
: Spirit Feeling (High One)
: Information : Dead elf spirits choose or not where they go
: Information : those born out of Recognition attract interested spirits
: Extreme Longevity (preservers)
: Mind Linking + Visual Effects + Preserver cocoon's Think-Do + support by the 'Scroll' item, heavily charged with magic
: Information : Source and nature of magic
: Going Out (High Ones)
: Information : Origin of the Palace, of trolls and of preservers
: Preserver cocoon's Think-Do effect + 'out of time' effect
: Mental Link (from afar)


Siege at Blue Mountain - #1 :
: Possible Resistance to the Palace's call of dead spirits
: Power absorption (with the Egg as a support)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #2 :
: Sending Detection (long range)
: Mental Submission (by use of the Soul Name)
: Mind Probe (by the use of Mind Touch)
: Gliding (while asleep!)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #3 :
: Dark Send while Going Out!

Siege at Blue Mountain - #4 :
: Mental Healing (calming down)
: Information : magic is asleep in humans
: Genetic Change

Siege at Blue Mountain - #5 :
: Concentrating magic into an item
: Magic Feeling (in humans!)
: Gliding (very probably even inside cocoons!)
: Genetic Change (confirmed - with limits)
: Power Concentration (huge rock-shaping + floating)
: Gathering Power (Sending - demonstrating Dark Send)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #6 :
: Sending (gliders - strange limitation - preservers' cocoons)
: Sending Analysis (emotions)
: Possible information on magic - Control may be linked with need
: Same Soul for two bodies (possible reality / probable Mind Control trick)
: Tree Shaping - Anti-fire effect (+ effect of love on magic)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #7 :
: Mind Control trick (more probable)
: Egg as a memory holder (like the Scroll of colors - confirmed)
: Effect of will on group magic (focus)
: Mental Healing (emotions and need)
: What group magic can accomplish
: Egg meant to ABSORB the Palace, the elf spirits inside it, and their power
: Space and time travel (group magic)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #8 :
: Mind Control trick (confirmed)
: Group magic versus one (+ interesting remark: 'they KNOW her')
: Truth in Sending (Wolfrider savagery)
: Mental Healing (waking powers up)
: Healing (BOTH human and elf, at the same time!)
: Information : interesting after-effect
: Spirit Hosting
: The only difference is love (probable key for magic)


Kings of the Broken Wheel - #1 :
: Magic causes strange genetic effects
: Magic Feeling (by preservers)
: Fire Magic (Heat Wave - Group magic - by GLIDERS!)
: Floating (used for stopping the huge bolt) + EXTREME STRENGTH (manipulating that heavy bolt) (Group magic)
: Fire magic (Bolts - group magic - gliders or linked to Rayek)
: Shield (group magic)
: Mental Link + specific event near the Palace = triggering of a special effect

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #2 :
: Information : Timmain has more powerful fire magic than group
: Fire Magic (HUGE energy bolts - causing a huge chasm - group magic
: Freeing the dead gliders' spirits restores the Palace

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #3 :
: Shape Changing (High One - inside a preserver cocoon - confirmed as incredible feat)
: Sending (from far away and intensely so)
: Flying (Palace power)
: Reintegrating even an unwilling High One (Palace power)
: Extreme Velocity Travel (Palace power)
: Emotion Transfer (Spirits power)
: Emotion Transfer (confirmed + Interesting remark: dead elves barely remember, even recent and extreme events, like murder!

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #4 :
: Waking powers up (Palace power)
: Magic Vision (Palace power)
: Mind Control (forced sleep)
: Healing (another use of magic.. *sigh*)
: Rock Shaping (..the Palace - not so difficult, now!)
: Sending the Cry out (inside the Palace)
: Rock Shaping (..the Palace - SEPARATING a piece of it!)
: Disguising the Palace (interesting 'A PART of the new land' call..)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #5 :
: Mind Transfer
: Mental Healing (Shutting mental door)
: Shield (Palace-induced power)
: Palace-induced effects
: Water Control (Winnowill - so soon after her exile on that island!)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #6 :
: Magic Feeling (Extreme: Hearing a mental cry from beyond time!)
: Light Control (visual effects - Scroll magic)
: Link with the little Palace
: Mind Link (from afar) + Water Breathing (so soon after her exile on that island!)
: Time Jump (Palace power)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #7 :
: Mental Call (Extreme)
: Mental Shield
: Lock Sending (facilitating birth - without a healer)
: Mental Shield (confirmed and developped)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #8 :
: Rock Shaping (Determining a mountain's aging)
: Anti-Healing (driven by hatred)
: Healing (a human - leprosis-like terminal disease)
: Anti-healing (controlled)
: Genetic Change (removing the wolf blood from a wolfrider)
: Escaping Mind Link and Sending

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #9 :
: Water Surge
: Water Swirl
: Water Ram
: Mental Shield (Evolved into Mental Barriers and Mental Submission)
: Healing (at distance - power of love + Palace)
: Time Jump (back in time - Palace power)

Hidden Years #1:
: Premonition (not even watching the target!)

Hidden Years #2:
: Fire magic (Creating flames)

Hidden Years #4:
: Rock Shaping (Bridge - Palace power)
: Detecting humans around (Palace power)
: Winnowill in hypnotic trance and entrapped within the Palace's walls
: Fragments of the Palace (lost..)
: Healing (at distance - many at once - combined powers + Palace effect)

Hidden Years #5:
: Recognition (Mental Link effect)

Hidden Years #9½:
: Winnowill shaken out of her trance by Cutter's hating send
: Sending.. as the most adequate punishment ever!


Shards #16:
: Soul Entrapment
: Watching Over (visually confirmed)


The Searcher and the Sword:
: Sending (Complete Imagery, BY HUMAN)
: Preserver cocoon magic (to LEARN from the Palace)
: Deal elf spirit Calling (confirmed)


The Discovery:
: Magic Channelling (confirmed) + Learning in preserver cocoon (confirmed)
: Magic Shaping (Palace power)
: Going Out while cocooned and projecting a mental image from afar!
: Information: no hiding emotions while in this..
: Astral Flight (called by love)
: Water Surge
: HUGE spiraling Water Surge!
: Water Rope
: 'Us but not us..' - reminds of Cutter's remarks.. WHAT KIND OF ELF IS WINNOWILL, ACTUALLY!?..
: 'In THOUSANDS of years' !!

That little headshoft of Dre-ahn when The Call stops on page 7 in the second panel reminds me of Wendy's older style, a lot. And made me realize how much I missed it.

I hope we do see more of the tree-elves and that the one female seen again in #10 doesn't turn out to be another Winniowill or Kahvi who needs to be put in her place later on.

#6 blurp: "...The human warlord Angrif Djun, more furious than ever, prepares a massive assault upon every elf living on the World of Two Moons..."
#7 blurp: "...a dire threat surfaces..."
#9 blurp: "...But Cutter’s greatest concern is Angrif Djun’s massive war fleet, which seeks to crush all elves and their allies..."
#10 no mention in the blurp, but we get to see a dying Angrif and his fleet on the cover
#11 blurp: "...Angrif Djun’s war fleet invades the Wavedancers’ waters..."
#12 blurp: "... just as the Wavedancers deliver dire news: the Djun’s warships have arrived..."

oh and this:

#11: "...as a shattering moment of truth occurs between Cutter and Timmain..." so maybe we learn this shattering truth in this issue (or in #17, who knows).

Even though it's a nice gesture, that Angrif's troops are still honour his final wish and attack the elves nevertheless, humans don't react this way. Normally they would turn and figure out, who's going to be the next king (as the Mongols and the Huns did). Just name one historic example, where an army continued an attack even though they knew their leader was dead.

Had a dream last night that I had just finished reading #11, set back, put it down, and was immediately posting how much better it was than #10.... just hit me it was a dream....

@Wiseshaman wrote:

@Tymber wrote:

@Redhead Ember wrote:

@KR Wordgazer wrote:

Hmm.  Somehow I missed that.  That means Dre-ann or whatever his name is, could have come at any point and have been in the Palace for some time by the time Skywise introduces him.

True. I suppose he just went into the Palace and hid somewhere... it's pretty big...

Or it's poor, inconsistent writing.

((Wendy I mean...))

That's a hilarious image!

@Lunakat wrote:

We know some significant amount of time has passed-- because Tinga grew up and Shukopeck had a bunch of kids. Skywise has been shuttling people to and from the palace (note- Moonshade)-- so he's clearly been in the loop as to the goings on there. That's how he knew about Silent Guy. Silent Guy showed at sometime during this indeterminate time period. He's clearly shy and lacking in social skills. Skywise had to pull him out to introduce him because he wasn't the sort to think of stepping outside and saying "hi" on his own.

It's not that complicated. It's not the most riveting turn of events-- but it's not nonsensical either. It's a basic transitional issue. Stuff happened-- stuff is about to happen. This is just the point where the story turns a corner.

I guess that's (a large part) of my complaint. Readers are being forced to assume a lot of things. To me, it felt like Moonshade popped out of nowhere. Then the strong silent guy pops out of nowhere.

To me, it feels like I am missing pages out of a comic book. Like I am reading issue #10, and when I turned to from page 8 to page 9, I feel like there's about 2 pages of comics that's just missing. Because things are just being "shoved" in our face to say, "Oh, I didn't show you all this cool stuff of Skywise in the pod - but he picked up Elf A, B, C and D - and they're in the Palace."

We don't even see them disembarking the pod or anything. Absolutely NO indication how they got there. They're just suddenly there.

It feels very, very lazy.

(I would say rushed, but there's some elements of this Final Quest that I feel like have dragged on way too long)

There's an over all lack of feeling like anything's building up to something. It just feels like someone is writing all these elves, and they're all just there...

All of that said, I feel like I am repeating myself. And that's probably not good. I think I've made it clear how I feel and I just need to shut the frick up and wait for issue #11 and so on and comment on them as they come out!

That said, I am also very glad that you're getting something out of these issues, Luna. And sorry for ranting and rambling so much! I swear this will be my final word on this issue (unless asked specifically about something!)

@KR Wordgazer wrote:

So Two-Edge's use of the word seemed fine to me-- he is often old-fashioned in the way he talks.

And by old fashioned you mean... crazy?

Two-Edge, to me (despite his insanity, or perhaps because of it), sounded "old fashioned" in that he seemed very well spoken.

I don't know, the "sup" just didn't read well for me. Wasn't that big of a deal, the word itself (though, like most of what I have read in Final Quest - it was a bit jarring). But his "speech" over all seemed weaker than usual. And I think, as someone else pointed out - he went from, "Go away!" to "Hey, let's be best friends!" (Granted, crazy people can be like that). But it feels like a lot of this issue felt that way. From Two-Edge's attitude, to even Skywise's (apparent, for those that don't remember the previous stuff or are new readers) attitude and liking of Timmain, and even Timmain going from, "Everyone can walk!" to, "Hey Skywise! Hold me, hot stuff." Even Moonshade leaving (I can't remember clearly, but didn't she leave in issue #9?) and issue #10, she seems like, "It's been a zillion years! All those feelings from the last 9 issues of not knowing my place are resolved for reasons none of the readers get to know! But I want to be with you forever Strongbow! HOLD ME!"

All in one issue. There just feels like a lot that is being left for the reader to assume. I remember a time that ElfQuest focused on this type of stuff; gave it to the reader, let them know the inside of all these character's minds, and let it develop so you really got a feel for them.

That, I think is what is missing.

@Lunakat wrote:

Besides, how bitchy was Leetah to Cutter? About a thousand times worse than just saying "no" one time. I think Skywise can just get over it.

Well for the Cutter/Leetah thing; there was Recognition. And we got to see Leetah's conflict about her feeling and the pull of Recognition. Timmain (again, based on Final Quest, and perhaps my horrid memory) simply went from "I am all powerful and mysterious" in the first couple of issues, to "We will not pick up anyone! They can walk their candy asses here!" in issue #9 (clearly I am paraphrasing) to "Oh, hey Skywise, I think I like-like you!" in issue #10. Nowhere do we see Timmain's thoughts on Skywise in Final Quest. And Skywise's thoughts (again could be my soddy memory) don't really reflect on Timmain in Final Quest until issue #10, and just before she's like, "Let's do the ramba in the sheets!"

@Lunakat wrote:

You know... I actually like the art quite a bit in this issue. I like how the characters are drawn. The story is meandering, yes-- but I think that's because it's trying to give equal time to everyone, which is hard to pull off.

It's really just the plot feeling like it's everywhere that I have a problem with. I bet some of the things I dislike happening - Shenshen turning into a human, Timmain & Skywise, etc - would settle MUCH better with me, if it was developed further in the story. To you and I - it makes sense that ShenShen would become a human, because she loves being a mid-wife and this is the easiest way to be accepted by them. But that didn't really get developed. She didn't have any conflict of, "If I do this I may never see my family again" type of stuff - and if she did, it was extremely brief. Same with Timmain and Skywise. I would have liked to have seen that developed in Final Quest, as if Final Quest was the first time I was exposed to ElfQuest.

Deep down, I guess, it feels like Final Quest alienates new readers because Wendy is shoving so much into it, rather than breaking it up in arcs. Like one arc (maybe 3 issues) should have focused on Ember, Tier and whatever that human's name is, with a page or two dedicated to the Palace stuff, so you know it's happening in the background. Issues 4 through 6, build up ShenShen and Skywise and Timmain, issues 7 through 10 focus on Rayek and his approach to the Palace, etc.

Instead, it feels like the book jumps in EVERY issue, because she's covering so many elements at once, in EVERY issue rather than focusing on stuff, and eluding to other stuff.

@Tymber wrote:

And that's another thing - in issue #9, she was being completely bitchy to Skywise. And in Issue #10, he's like, "Man, she's a hottie! I can't get her out of my mind!" Then by the end of Issue #10, Timmain's like, "Oh! Look! I shaped myself to be your size! Let's go make beautiful music together!"

Oh man. How many single guy friends do you have? When has a woman being bitchy ever turned them off? Trust me-- most of them like it. It drives them crazy-- they can't figure her out, and they're frustrated, and they want her... but they can't have her... but she gives them a little of what they want, except she makes them work like dogs for it! Yes, most men lap that shindizzle up! Not kidding.

This bit of story struck me as completely plausible!

@Stargazer wrote:

Perhaps Timmain thinks she's expressing emotion and affection, but after tens of thousands of years as a wolf, she just forgot that her ears don't move and her tail can't wag?

And that's another thing - in issue #9, she was being completely bitchy to Skywise. And in Issue #10, he's like, "Man, she's a hottie! I can't get her out of my mind!" Then by the end of Issue #10, Timmain's like, "Oh! Look! I shaped myself to be your size! Let's go make beautiful music together!"

It just feels like it's everywhere.

It's like trying to watch a tennis match while fast forwarding the entire thing. My eyes are back and forth so much I have a headache.

@TrollHammer wrote:

If, indeed, FQ is only 24 issues, well that puts a whole different slant on the pacing for me.
I had thought that the story arc for FQ would be quite a bit bigger than what would fit into 24 issues.
I had wondered about it before,but until I read Manga's post about a 24 issue limit (quoted in another post), I didnt want to assume the worst.  It tells me that MAYBE they dont have the page-space to dwell on some of the relatively "minor" stuff (stuff that used to make the OQ so interesting and fun to read) to get the meat and potatoes finished by the end, if you will.

The Original Quest ran 20 issues. Just 4 less than Final Quest.
The Original Quest was their first real dive into comics (not sure if Wendy had done writing elsewhere).
And the pacing of the Original Quest is infinitely better.

The Original Quest was broke into "arcs."
The arcs were (I feel) -
1. Issues #1 through #5 (Lose home to life at the Sun Village)
2. Issues #6 through #10 (life fast forwarded w/cubs to Forbidden Grove)
3. Issues #11 through #15 (The entire Blue Mountain Saga)
4. Issues #16 through #20 (the fight against the frozen trolls for the Palace)

The Final Quest?
So far it feels like:

Arc 1: All the elves take their sweet time getting to the Palace, while over here Ember and Tier are going on and on about Recognition, and then she gets captured, and then the humans prepare for war, and let's go back to the Palace, oh by the way - all these elves arrive. And hey, new reader - look, Timmain and Skywise are Recognized! What do you mean you have no idea what that means? Or the impact?

I think you make a very good point (I forgot to quote it), that Final Quest makes NO attempt - ZERO! - to even ease any NEW readers to the series. So if someone decided to pick up ElfQuest: Final Quest, for the first time, never having heard about ElfQuest but thought the art looked great - would have NO idea from it's very first issue to understand WHAT was going on.

@manga wrote:

#1: FQ is slated for 24 issues, so issue #10 isn't even the halfway point. .

If this pace goes on, than nothing will happen until #24  
Hopefully this 'moving chess pieces at their places' is finally over

Maybe the stories of future quest and rogue's curse will get rendered obsolete, I have no idea how they can fit Jink into this

Tymber, "sup" as the verb form of "to eat supper" has been around for a long time. Wendy's not cutting corners to make that rhyme.

So I was noodling about on the FAQ page today and I found a couple of things.

#1: FQ is slated for 24 issues, so issue #10 isn't even the halfway point.  Though I am definitely not happy with the development vis-a-vis Rayek and Winnowill, well, I wouldn't have been happy with whatever issue of "KotBW" featured the timetrip either.  I'll hope for better developments.  I don't think it will involve the ret-conning of "Rogue's Curse" out of existence but there may be at least a better spin on things or even, dare to hope, the folding in of a conclusion.  (Since we don't know how far out, in the elves' time-line, the ending will actually be.)

#2: "When we first met Cutter, his wolf-friend Nightrunner warned him of danger via a crude sending. At that point in the story, a few of the Wolfrider wolves retained just enough elf-blood (from the time of Timmain and Timmorn) to be able to send. Now, in the time of Final Quest, many thousands of years later, that “blood” (and ability) has been completely diluted – bred out, actually – to the point where the Wolfriders’ lupine friends are 100 percent wolf. So no, they can no longer send."      No more elf-blooded wolves at all, though it seems to me that by the same logic, the Wolfriders shouldn't have much wolf blood left either.

@Multi-Facets wrote:

It's not exactly sudden; Skywise was drawn to Timmain before the Shard War. I think I'm remembering that time frame correctly anyway. (My mind operates on a twisted version of wolfsong.) But yes, Recognition and Jink seem imminent.

@Lunakat wrote:

Skywise's infatuation with Timmain is hardly sudden. He's been mooning over her for several storylines. She walked directly to him in Book 7 (Cry from Beyond) and they've been tied to each other's hip ever since... minus that 10,000 years that Skywise was time travelling.

You're right. I guess I forgot it. And he didn't seem to be pining over her in Final Quest (or that's not the impression I got for these last 10 issues), he seemed more concerned with the Palace - and then all of the sudden in Issue #10, he's like, "Oh My High Ones! You know what? I can't seem to get my mind off this High One, who just the issue before acted like a Supreme Bitch that would put Winnowill to shame!"

@Kindredsoul wrote:

*raises hand*
Um... did I miss something? Did Timmain change the "No helping the new elves" rule at some point and I totally didn't see it?
The new elf that came out of the pod... did he reach the Palace at some point? When did they pick him up? Was he in issue 9 and I missed it? Or is this another unwritten "assumption" that he did make it at some time during the time skipping and it just wasn't shown?
There's like three time skips going on in this issue that's left me totally lost and confused.
And I guess he *sang* to Skywise at some point and that's how Skywise knew so much about him already?

New Guy (with the big No Hump) definitely came from the Palace - because there was the Call - and then when it says he stopped - it shows him looking around in a single panel (along with a few others who suddenly no longer hear the call).

But then - BLAM - he's suddenly there. Which begs to question - how does Skywise know so much about him if Skywise was just hanging out with everyone a second ago? It's not like we saw Skywise greet the new guy.

This book is making a lot of ASSUMPTIONS (emphasis somewhere specifically in that word) which in my mind, is poor writing.

The writing feels like it's everywhere. Some things I feel have been dragged out to death, while other things are entirely skipped and assumed. It feels like they've lost their ability to pace the story - something they once excelled at so much.

@Lunakat wrote:

Shuna was as old as thirty when she had her kid? I thought she was in her twenties... It can't have been more than three years between 'Discovery' and Shuna's baby being born. And it wasn't long between 'Searcher and the Sword' and 'Discovery'. Wasn't Shuna about eighteen in 'Searcher and the Sword'?

That's my point, Shuna can't be that old and they talk as if she'd be dust and bones weren't it not for Leetah's magic.

For me, the most disappointment is, that almost nothing happens in Future Quest, it seems to drag. In OQ, by issue #10 Cutter reunited with his family and Nightfall/Redlance in the forevergreen. And there is no difference in the number of pages

@Elwing wrote:

LOL! I totally read that as "Aurek... he cut the tattered remains from decomposing glider bodies and stitched it together".

Me too ^^

@Embala wrote:

After SO many preview teasers they may think the NO preview is the best teaser.
You see ... people already suppose that the content of FQ #10 is too dense to allow preview ... too exiting to give away anything by preview spoilers.

Makes sense. They're creating a lot of buzz by not having posted a preview yet, what with people going "Where is that preview?"

After SO many preview teasers they may think the NO preview is the best teaser.
You see ... people already suppose that the content of FQ #10 is too dense to allow preview ... too exiting to give away anything by preview spoilers.

Thinking of Jink... wouldnt it be interesting if it turned out the wolf she met in the desert (at the crashed ship) turned out to be Timmain?

@Miss G: I had thought it was implied in her dream Jink was part wolfrider, or had some tie to them.... of course if say:
A) the elves get into another argument over the use of the palace (Rayak/Cutter type usage argument)  
B) Timmain gets sick and tired of it and leaves, possibly never to be seen from again until after the leave  
C) Timmain, being a high one and instrumental in Sunstreams training is able to ignore/ block out the call/link
D) the elves (known and newcomers) get all wrapped up in a fight over what to do with the palace until the Djin is knocking at their door
E) the fighting causes Mindcoil to be formed from Winnie's ol dingbat spirit, which Egg then later presides over in a roll reversal.
F) in a knee-jerk reaction to the Djin's cannons (that he finally creates from the pistol design) that are actually damaging the Palace, they take off for parts unknown, third star to the right and straight on until morning.
G) two edge and his misfit trolls blow the heck out of the Djin, ending that one small part of the dangers of Abode.
H) those that are left behind then kick off the real Final Quest to figure out how to survive in a world thats trying to destroy them... Without the parachute of the palace.

Or

The elves get all settled in to wait for the centuries it will take for the other kin all over the place that they ARENT picking up... but the Djin shows up so they gotta leave, but they'll be back again some day. Egg, who was there the whole time at Blue Mountain, builds a magical vessel within Blue Mountain so the spirits of all those that die during the wait have some place to go, but this gets bastardized into Mindcoil later by the human Black Snakes.

Perhaps this vessel was already made by Egg during the last 10000 years for the specific purpose of holding Winnie's spirit...

Oh, and for the twist in last issue (#10) Timmain reveals a way for Skywise to get his wolf blood back... who does so but not until after Cutter gives his up to be with him... So tragic! :p  just joking.

Edit: just was thinking, Kahvi was given an egg by Egg at some point, but I dont know what happened to it. He stated he would make another. He demonstrated how only he could allow others in or out of it to her, in that he tells her that if she killed him she would have no way to get out. Assuming it would work for spirits as well, he had been devising a method that could be used to contain Winnie.

Just something I'm thinking about...about 50 % of readers thinks this mysterious Star-child is Timmain, maybe shape-changed or something, but why is she looking like her self again in cover 11 then? ( like a wolf I mean by that, if she is recognized or something like that, wouldn't she stay in that form? ) And she is mentioned with Cutter, not Skywise? Don't prove anything, but gives me hope...I don't really love the thought that Timmain is Star-child.

The rest...wow, kinda frustrating getting this tease now, when it's still over a month before we get #10.
The Moonshade thing can be her removing wolfblood, and that's why Strongbow is sad on the cover, but Oddbit and Mender?? Have no idea :O Maybe e get some clues in #10, but else....have NO idea. Winnowill....what does winnie want? Nothing good I guess.

Wouldn't it be typical if the wildest speculations ended up being true, and Cutter and Timmain recognizes and that explains Leetah and Skywises worried faces on that cover, and whole teaser picture of Cutter we got some years ago?