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Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: Final Quest #12
Wisp

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: Final Quest #12    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyWed Nov 25, 2015 2:06 pm
Agree on everyone's initial reactions--this isn't great.

To me it feels very frenetic, and yet the ball never moves forward much (big exception being Timmain's revelation, of course). Like, in this issue, people are moving all over the planet. The world feels so small and flimsy now. Remember when Kahvi and Aroree had to go the New Land in KotBW? Littletrill dropped into the ocean of exhaustion, Aroree--who had to be one of the best floaters in Blue Mountain as one of the Chosen 8--wasn't going to make it without Tyldak's help. Yet now, Windkin and Rayek can fly there in three days carrying Venka and Ekuar. Easy Peasy! Why is Venka just leaving her tribe when she's the chief? No reason, just go with it.

She obviously still alive, clearly a flesh wound. I think it's implied the Winnowill is helping to wind Rayek up. I liked the detail of the old peeing fisherman wearing a Korafay totem--he even got her hair right! But seriously, why are the Djunmen on shore destroying their village. Just for kicks? Those people obviously don't have any loot, and it's a lot of work to get soldiers to and from the ships when their main objective is under the sea. I think there may have been some implication of primitive depth charges, but it seems more likely that the attack on the village and Rayek's freakout will somehow draw the Wavedancers out of hiding. Sigh.

Is Sunstream the worst lifemate/father ever? His lifemate and daughter's tribe is under siege from humans, and he just drops them off to deal with it?? "The humans have some super-scary new weapons, try not to die all at once, byeeeeee!" I can see him bringing Snakeskin back, and Korafay would probably insist on going too because she's spunky, but Reef? Brill? What's she going to do, sigh at them? Good think Reef turned out to be the Incredible Hulk of Elfquest. Also, I'm not familiar enough with the Wavedancer backstory, but wasn't Reef deformed by Winnowill? Is this a retcon, saying that he was actually shaping himself into some kind of soldier-monster?

Why exactly was there a Chiefs' council? Couldn't Tier and Ember just have come for a visit? There was literally no need for either Venka or Snakeskin to be there, storywise.

The writing is, indeed, bad--worse than usual, I'd say. That line of Timmain's: "Know this! Magic beyond a mortal Wolfrider's skill will not find him..." I had to read it at least 3 times because it barely makes sense. A mortal Wolfrider's skill is, literally, not magic. So wtf is she talking about? So convoluted, and I wish it were the exception instead of the rule. Agree that Wendy's writing used to be stronger. I also loved it's earnestness. It made it really valuable and unique, especially since everything these days is drowning in irony.

Dart and Mender--get to together, go apart, whatever. I have no attachment to this pairing and wish I did, especially since it's the first openly and exclusively same-sex pairing. The writing was so bad, I couldn't figure out who is going back to Ember's tribe and who is staying. Ember and Dart are staying, Mender's going, Chitter and....Teir are....going? Don't know, don't really care. Her tribe has no function at this point, and I really like some of those characters.

The last page is pretty compelling, I thought, although Skywise does not look much like himself. This is a really bold direction to go, basically exploding the hero of the piece--a triple-lutz of storytelling. I don't expect them to stick the landing, but the failure itself could well be spectacular. I'll give them credit, they're really going for something.

I agree that Strongbow has been very passive-aggressive in the past, but last issue it looked like he was about to pull-a-Cutter himself. His reaction in #12 seemed out of step with what came before.

Does it annoy anyone else that Wendy is so wedded to the FQ concept art she did over a decade ago that she makes the characters do costume changes to conform their outfits with the old art? It's just seems so unnecessary and artificial.
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: Final Quest #12
Redhead Ember

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: Final Quest #12    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyWed Nov 18, 2015 5:54 am
Lunakat wrote:
Except, that we've always seen the spirit in the palace as individual. They seem to hang out in the spirit pool without being completely subsumed by it.  There's no indication that individual spirits disappear or split themselves in half. I think that those who knew them would have noticed. Wouldn't part of them be missing somehow?

You know what part of herself I bet Timmain gave Cutter? Her personality.



Because the spirits we see are those who've 'stepped out of' the spirit pool. And no, part of the spirit wouldn't go missing, just like a flame doesn't became smaller when you use it to light another flame.
We only see a bare minimum of spirits, only those who are somehow connected to the present day elves; nobody has ever seen Ima, Guin or Tislin step out of the spirit pool.


Embala wrote:
*chuckles* I don't think that was Red's point. ^^

I've wondered the same ... If the soul sharing of Cutter and Timmain is the BIG gamechanging revelation, why is it given away in the preview? My immediate thought was: What comes after this? Is a more important part of the story still hidden in issue #12? And ... what could it be ...?


Exactly. Maybe those preview pages are actually the least revealing part of the issue, since they are technically only background information; how did Timmain and Tam end up as two parts of a whole? Showing what happened right after the end of the preview would probably reveal too much; where did Cutter run off to so quickly?
Besides; pretty much all the previews so far has revealed something:

1:
The Wolfriders attempt to stay within the Way, and Moonshade's displeasure with it; going to the point that she had taken up living in the Palace and wearing a preserver silk dress, as well as contemplating giving up her wolfblood.

2:
Krim's decision that this was the time for her to take the "last dance", and Pike's inability to just let her go. As well as Pike's thoughts that he might die too, leaving Sust the only one left of the family.

3:
The growing rift between Strongbow and Moonshade, but also the fact that despite it all they still loved each other dearly. Together with Cutter's and Leetah's worry for Ember and their decision to still honour her choice of not getting rescued.

4:
The aura of the Palace being a lot bigger than first assumed, and Windkin's question to Kahvi.
The fact that Angrif got the gun from Two-Edge, and that Ardam Djarum wasn't from the future, but just a nutter.
(Also the fact that Serrin is still alive).

5:
Kahvi's ability to form a pod faster than ever, with the help of other spirits who merged with her - because yes that actually happened - as well as her decision that Windkin should be part of the rescue team.
The final confirmation that Kahvi was Teir's mother.

6:
Ember's worry about the influence the Palace might have on the way.
Skywise's worry about what the loss of his wolfblood might mean for his relationship with Cutter.
Kahvi finally revealing what happened - even if she had a bit of trouble with the concept of time.
(In fact those pages that was skipped didn't really reveal much, other than the fact that there were some ruins.)

7:
Venka leading the Go-Backs and Windkin having gone off to find her in order to tell her what happened to Kahvi.
Aroree still being ashamed of what happened back during SaBM.
Two-Edge having made Venka's "dream-shield" real.

8:
Korafay's fearlessness and the fact that Reef is still haunted by the ghosts of his past.

9:
The fact that it would take 10 years for Angrif's fleet to be ready.
Windkin's assurance to Aroree that he's glad she caused him to lose his wolfblood.

10:
Aurek turning up again.
Ingen and Jarrah re-appearing.
Rayek's inability to let Winnowill be truly healed.

11:
The extend of Dre-Ahn's singing.
Timmain having somehow "heard" Skywise's words to Cutter.
A look into some of the other elves who'd arrived in the Palace, and Aurek having become the new Scroll Turner.
Oddbit's desire to have Mender make her more beautiful.
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: Final Quest #12
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: Final Quest #12    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTue Nov 17, 2015 4:05 pm
*chuckles* I don't think that was Red's point. ^^

I've wondered the same ... If the soul sharing of Cutter and Timmain is the BIG gamechanging revelation, why is it given away in the preview? My immediate thought was: What comes after this? Is a more important part of the story still hidden in issue #12? And ... what could it be ...?

I see two possibilities:
1. What happens with Cutter after those new insights? He freaks out - so much we know. But WHY exactly? Is there more than the soul sharing that disturbes him? And when I've understood the teaser of issue #13 right then Cutter will disappear. Why? Where? What possible evil happens to him after Timtam?
2. What about the Wavedancers? Will the Armada attack with brutal force like cannons and haropoons? Water bombs? Or a biological weapon like it was used in the old storyline with Ardan Djarum? Are the Wavedancersw prepared at all? How well? Issue #13 preview already told that the Armada attacks peaceful villagers. Because the Wavedancers try to find rescue on the shore? Or do they hide well and the anger hits the villagers?
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: Splitting topics
Embala

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Search in: News and Announcements   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: Splitting topics    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 16, 2015 5:55 pm
Why so complicated? RENAME the #12 and #13 thread now to "speculation" thread (means: in case the poll says so) and then someone will open the #12/#13 "discussion" thread. And #14 a.s.o. will be opened with the "right" headline.

If it helps others to feel more comfortable I'm fine with two threads per issue ... or how many are needed. *shrug*
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: Splitting topics
Tymber

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Search in: News and Announcements   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: Splitting topics    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 16, 2015 12:42 pm
Lunakat wrote:
I think this is overcomplicating things. Just have a moderator change the name of the topic "Final Quest 12" to "Final Quest 12 Preview/Speculation" and when the issue comes out-- open a new thread.


I think that would be the intention (moving forward, or even, if the YES vote wins, with Issue #12 and #13 which both have threads already, though the issues are not out).

My thought process was - when the new issue comes out, people are (ideally) going to be excited to talk about it. But for those (like myself) who have avoided the threads before the issue comes out - diving in on Page 8, for example, feels like a bit much, and I'd be less inclined (though lets be honest, when am I ever quiet?) to probably post my thoughts, because there's an overflowing threads of discussion(s) happening in there.

So it'd be nice (again, speaking for myself when I spewed the idea), to have a "fresh" thread to start with and go forward.
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: Splitting topics
Nibblet

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Search in: News and Announcements   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: Splitting topics    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySun Nov 15, 2015 9:38 am
Tymber wrote:
Embala wrote:
Why not have it both in one? Unless you close the discussion the comments will get mixed for sure.


Well, I was thinking it would be clear... For example one would be:

Final Quest #12 - Speculation/Preview Thread

Then when issue #12 DOES come out, someone creates a:

Final Quest #12 - Comments.

The reason being - the thread for issue #12 is already 8 pages deep. And the issue hasn't even come out yet?

Would be nice to have a fresh thread to begin discussing it - without feeling like you're jumping in the middle of something.

As the issues come out, Admins/Moderators can even combine the "Speculation" threads into one large thread called "Final Quest - Speculations" (Although that's work for the admins/moderators - and just an idea to keep things "tidy" around here if that's a concern).

Again, just ideas I am spewing. Smile


I kinda like this idea, but so we don't upset anyone with a new thing and as this is the way of things now

LETS VOTE ON IT!

Go on... you know you want to Wink
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: Rayek the Wandering Rogue's thread
manga

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Search in: Keeping In Character   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: Rayek the Wandering Rogue's thread    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySat Nov 14, 2015 10:33 pm
The funniest thing about my crazy fan theory
Spoiler:
is that for some time now, I've had in mind a story snippet where Cutter's spirit (having long slipped his skin) senses Leetah's sadness and longing for him, so he goes looking for a way to get born and be with her again. He even finds a body he feels compatible with that's immortal so he'll never have to leave her again... Only time is a fuzzy concept for the elf spirits and so he gets born as Rayek.
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: /Apology/Solution
Tymber

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Search in: News and Announcements   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: /Apology/Solution    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySat Nov 14, 2015 12:45 pm
Redhead Ember wrote:
The way I figured it out the Final Quest #[X] threads basically have three steps:

1: When we are speculating purely based the cover.

2: When we are speculating/discussing based on the preview, which someone is always nice enough to post in the thread.

3: When we are discussing the issue in question. If someone hasn't bought the newest issue they've simply got to not enter the thread.


But the problem with that is step 3. No one has issue #12 yet (or #13, apparently) - so if someone hasn't bought the newest issue, they simply do not enter that thread idea - how is the thread for issue #12 8 pages then? No one has that issue so no one should be in that thread! Wink

(I know what you meant, I was just pointing out the irony!) Smile
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: /Apology/Solution
Tymber

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Search in: News and Announcements   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: /Apology/Solution    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyFri Nov 13, 2015 10:01 pm
Embala wrote:
Why not have it both in one? Unless you close the discussion the comments will get mixed for sure.


Well, I was thinking it would be clear... For example one would be:

Final Quest #12 - Speculation/Preview Thread

Then when issue #12 DOES come out, someone creates a:

Final Quest #12 - Comments.

The reason being - the thread for issue #12 is already 8 pages deep. And the issue hasn't even come out yet?

Would be nice to have a fresh thread to begin discussing it - without feeling like you're jumping in the middle of something.

As the issues come out, Admins/Moderators can even combine the "Speculation" threads into one large thread called "Final Quest - Speculations" (Although that's work for the admins/moderators - and just an idea to keep things "tidy" around here if that's a concern).

Again, just ideas I am spewing. Smile
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: Final Quest #12
wolfmoonsky

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: Final Quest #12    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyFri Nov 13, 2015 6:58 pm
I read the preview a couple hours ago too... All I have to say is that my reactions are the same like Cutters! What the flying..... poor guy! Sad Can you imagine Cutter now...damn.

I'm curious the see how this goes. Hoping the see the final quest #12 soon.
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: /Apology/Solution
Elwing

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Search in: News and Announcements   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: /Apology/Solution    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyWed Oct 21, 2015 3:55 am
I think FQ is a train wreck and I will continue to be vocal about that. It's good to have an appreciation thread for the good things though, because there are still plenty of those. I Really like the covers of #12 and #13, for two!
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: A Reader's Guide to ElfQuest
Embala

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Search in: All the Many Colors   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: A Reader's Guide to ElfQuest    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTue Sep 29, 2015 10:14 pm
Useful thread: A Breakdown of What's What by Skya



My Try of a Reader's Guide

It's not "the ultimative reader's guide" but good enough for a smooth read. I'll give you some information about the different series so you can decide by yourself.


Original Quest
Siege at Blue Montain
King of te Broken Wheel
Dreamtime - happens shortly after the return of the Palace ... awesome Wendy art
Hidden Years #4, #8, #9,5 and #10-15 - single issues filling gaps and giving background information for the time from the return of the Palace until the main story lines SHARDS and HIDDEN YEARS start. Read before starting with Shards and the rest of HY!

Main storyline - Shards (#1 til #15) and Hidden Years (from #16 til the end) - run parallel and influence each other.
Shards #10 / HY #24 and Shards #12 / HY #25 are directly connected - read the Shards issue before you look in the corresponding HY issue - spoiler warning!

About same time as Shards and Ember's Hidden Years storyline
New Blood #14-35 - Forevergreen Arc ... no direct connections with Shards/HY but it has necessary informations about the Sunvillagers' and Windkin's fate.
Would be no fault to read New Blood #11, #12, #13 before you start the Forevergreen Arc with NB #14.

Shards #16 gathers both the three story lines and the scattered elves.

Here you should read In All But Blood - it starts with Cutter's youth, a story about his early time in the Sunvillage, a story centering on Skywise somewhen after the return of the Palace. The last is the important one: Full Circle closes a time and knowledge gap between the end of SHARDS and the following stories ...

The Searcher and the Sword - following Cutter's tribe after Shards
Discovery - follows directly SatS

... that's what would make most sense for me to read in row from EQ1 until "present time" (= The Final Quest)


NOT on Digital EQ:
The Final Quest Prologue
Final Quest #1-24


more or less parallel with SatS / Discovery
Wild Hunt - following Ember's tribe after the Shards War
Mender's Tale (unfinished) - follows Wild Hunt
Recognition (Summer Special) - continues Wild Hunt
partly retold and more or less retconed by the Final Quest #1-2

The Forevergreen Story arc is more or less continued by
Worldpool - following some chars from the Forevergreen Arc - and
Fire-Eye (unfinished)
both probably "non-canon"



Other series and single issues

Tales from the Elves' wild past
Blood of Ten Chiefs
Two-Spear
Wolfrider! - read it!
By any other name (in the Readers Collection "In all but Blood")
Hidden Years #5, #6, #7, #9
#5 Starfall, Starrise - pre-EQ1 (story about Skywise and his parents' fate)
#6/7 How Shall I keep from Singing - High Ones' arrival and first years
#9 The Enemy's Face - story from Leetah's birth and youth
Homespun (in the Readers Collection "In all but Blood")

Spotlights on the time of the Long Wait (disappearance of the Palace until Big Sleep)
Hidden Years #1, #2, #3
#1 Wolfwood - during Long Wait (centering on Strongbow - I love it)
#2 Going Back - during Long Wait (Kahvi "visits" Sorrow's End again)
#3 Little Patch - during Long Wait (Tyleet's "cub")
The Jury (?)
New Blood #11, #12, #13
Kahvi

Background story of the Wavedancers
Wavedancers Issue #1
Wavedancers
Wavedancers - lost chapters (unfinished)
... it might be less puzzeling to read it after Discovery (some inconsistencies and retconning)

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Somewhen in not too far future
Rogue's Curse - following Rayek's journey after Shards/Final Quest

Far future
Jink
The Rebles
Futurequest (unfinished)

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I have not listed EVERYTHING here!

The rest of New Blood is a mix of Wild Past, Long Wait, various Misc stuff ... many of it considered non-canon

same for Bedtime Stories

Elfquest Volume 2 - containes stories that are mostly listed and reposted in collections (ask if you want to know more ... same for stories I missed to mention)

Kings Cross - a "What-If" / alternative universe story ...

Xanth - something totally different



There is no easy way to read through - you'll have to pick when you want to follow the timeline.

As you will notice some of the stories can be found in several topics. The Elfquest Vol. 2 issues have several ongoing stories in each issue - and then and now a single one. Many of these stories are gathered in collections:

Dreamtime, Wild Hunt, Wavedancers, Rogue's Curse, Wolfrider! to mention just a few.

You can stick with the gatherings to follow my suggestions ... Elfquest Vol. 2 is a read for completation when everything else is done in my opinion.


Don't hesitate to ask in case you need more information - or help to find some issues/collections.


Welcome to the pack Smile Enjoy and have fun! Good read! EQ
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: Our sexy stargazer Skywise
Embala

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Search in: Keeping In Character   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: Our sexy stargazer Skywise    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySat Sep 19, 2015 10:51 pm
Our sexy stargazer Skywise ... this was Skywise's thread, opened by twinklebug, on the original Scroll of Colors. Follow old discussions and see fanart from earlier times.

Visit Skywise's bio page on Elfquest.com. Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 _12_sk13#12 found
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: It'll be ... One-Eye ... from now on
Embala

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Search in: Keeping In Character   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: It'll be ... One-Eye ... from now on    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySat Sep 19, 2015 5:16 pm
One-Eye ... this was One-Eye's thread, opened by JadeOwl, on the original Scroll of Colors. Follow old discussions and see fanart from earlier times.

Visit One-Eye's bio page on Elfquest.com. Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 _12_on11#12 found
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: REFERENCE : MAGIC IN ELFQUEST
PCoquelin

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptySubject: REFERENCE : MAGIC IN ELFQUEST    Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTue Sep 08, 2015 10:41 am
Here, for reference, I shall gather and present the exact and distinct scenes of magic-use, up to 'The Discovery'.
I will show only the scenes drawn by Wendy, because her work should have precedence..
..and because they are necessarily 'canon'.


Original Quest - #1 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P01_Gliding_HighOne : Gliding (High One)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P02_Sending_WolfSend : Sending (Wolf Send)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P03_Sending_GroupSend : Sending (Group Send : call)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P04_Sending_GroupVisionSharing : Sending (Group Send : Sharing a vision

Original Quest - #2 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P05_Sending_IndividualCall : Sending (Individual call)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P06_Recognition : Recognition
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P07_HypnoticTranceonelf : Hypnotic trance (on elf)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P08_EmotionFeeling : Emotion feeling
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P09_Healing : Healing
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P10_LightControl : Light control

Original Quest - #3 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P11_ShapeChanging_OnObject_PossibleMindManipulation : Very probable shape-changing magic highly charged on object (the 'Great Sun' item behind Savah shows changing patterns) - possible mind manipulation
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P12_Levitation_OnObject : Levitation (on object)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P13_HypnoticTrance_OnAnimal : Hypnotic trance (on animal)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P14_Levitation_OnAnimal : Levitation (on animal)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P15_PossibleTruthTelling : Possible Truth-telling
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P16_Sending_MindProbe : Mind Probe
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_SelfLevitationThoughtLost : Information : self-levitation was thought to be a lost power, among the Sun Folk

Original Quest - #4 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P17_Sending_DarkSend : Sending (Dark Send)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P18_PossibleEmotionControl_OrEvenMore : Possible emotion control (or more)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_PoolOfStagnantMagic : Information : Magic can stagnate and turn into a monstruosity
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P19_MagicBornMonster_CombinationOfPowers : Magic monster (COMBINING powers)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P20_Sending_SpecialCall : Sending (Special, intense, intimate call)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P21_Sending_SpecialCall_ByMonster : Sending (Special call, by monster)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P22_ProbableWatchingOver : Probable Watching over (by a dead elf, over a living one)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P23_ResistanceToDarkSend : Resistance to Dark Send

Original Quest - #5 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P24_PlantGrowth : Plant Growth
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P24_SoulName : Soul Name
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P25_TelescopicVision : Telescopic Vision
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P26_MindControl_OnAnimal : Mind Control (on animal, pretended
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P26_MindControl_OnAnimal_Confirmed : Mind Control (on animal, confirmed)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P27_28_MindSearch_VisualProjection : Mind Search + Visual Projection + Voice Projection (probable - or a special form of Sending)

Original Quest - #6 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P29_GoingOut : 'Going Out'
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P30_31_PlantControl_MagicFeeling : Plant Control + Magic Feeling
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P32_Sending_LockSend_Challenge : Sending (Lock-Send - Challenge

Original Quest - #7 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P33_TreeShaping : Tree Shaping
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P34_Sending_FromElfToWolf : Sending (from elf to wolf)

Original Quest - #8 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P35_MagicFeeling_Faint : Magic Feeling (faint - familiar setting)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P35_MagicFeeling_Faint2 : Magic Feeling (confirmed - non familiar setting)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P36_MentalLink : Mental Link
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P37_MentaGuiding : Mental Guiding

Original Quest - #9 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P38_MagicFeeling_Confirmed : Magic Feeling (confirmed)

Original Quest - #10 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P39_PreserversCocoons : Magic of the preservers' cocoons
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P40_Sending_SpecialIntimateCall_Confirmed : Sending (Special, intimate, intense call - confirmed)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P41_Sending_CallingBackImages : Sending (Calling back images)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P42_PossiblePremonition : Possible premonition
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P43_LockedWarning : Locked warning
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P44_MagicallyCreatedSpecies : Preservers: a magically created species
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P45_Sending_DarkSendTorture : Sending (Dark Send - Torture)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P46_TreeShaping_LivingWoodIntoObject : Tree Shaping (living wood into an object)

Original Quest - #11 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P47_Sending_DarkSend_Stun : Sending (Dark Send - Stun)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P48_RockShaping_Dedicated_Door1 : Rock Shaping (dedicated - Door effect)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P49_Sending_DarkSend_PiercingBack : Sending (Dark Send - Piercing back)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P50_Sending_GroupCallToOne : Sending (Group call to one)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P51_AntiHealing : Anti-Healing
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P52_Sending_MultiTargetDarkSend_LeetahsRemark : Sending (Dark Send - multi-targetted) + Leetah's remark on anti-healing
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P53_Gliding_Gliders : Gliding (Blue Mountain's Gliders)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P54_Sending_DarkSendKill : Sending (Dark Send - Kill)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P55_Healing_ImprovisedShield : Healing (as an improvised Shield)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P56_ProbablePryingOnSendings : Probable Prying on Sendings

Original Quest - #12 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_LockedWarningIsVisual : Information : Locked Warning is mainly made of visual elements and feelings
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_Shaping_Healing_Same : Information : Shaping and Healing are basically the same type of magic
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P58_LethargicSemiDeadState_RockShaping_Dedicated : Semi-dead state Lethargy - used to enforce dedication of magic (here: VERY dedicated and limited Rock Shaping task)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P59_FleshShaping : Flesh Shaping
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P60_Sending_LockSend2 : Sending (Lock Send)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P61_Sending_IntenseForcingSend : Sending (Intense, focussed, forcing)

Original Quest - #13 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_GoingOutComesWithDeadlyRisks : Information : Going Out comes with deadly risks
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P62_EmotionFeelingOrMore : Emotion Feeling or more
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P63_Sending_DeepSending : Sending (Deep Sending)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P64_SoulNameAbuse : Soul Name abuse
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P65_ProbableHARDMetalShaping : Probable HARD metal Shaping
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_AncientTypesOfMagic : Information : Ancient types of magic
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P66_CombinedMagic_RockShaping_Levitation_Complex_Dedicated_MemoryEffect : Combined magic : Rock Shaping + Levitation (complex, dedicated, + History effect)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P67_SymbolicAndMemoryEffect : Information : Symbolic and memory effect, for the Egg
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P68_Semi-deadMagicalLethargyHelpedWithPotion : Information : Magical semi-dead Lethargy helped by a potion
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_HealingTellsMuchAboutGenetics : Information : Healing tells much about genetics
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P69_ResistanceToDarkSend : Resistance to Dark Send (killing version)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P70_CompleteSelfShaping_Plant_HighOne : Complete Self-Shaping (Plant - High One)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P71_CompleteSelfShaping_Animal_HighOne_INTER-BREEDING : Complete Self-Shaping (animal - High One) + Magically induced INTER-BREEDING
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P72_ProbableMindManipulation : Information : Probable Mind Manipulation

Original Quest - #14 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_RecognitionRevealsTheSoul : Information : Recognition reveals the soul
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P73_MindControl_Oblivion : Sending (Dark Send) - Mind Control (Oblivion)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P74_GoingOut_SpiritCapture : Going Out (Spirit Capture)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P75_SendingAndGoingOut_SpecialMindProbe : Sending and Going Out (Spirit Seeking)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P76_FleshShaping_OnAnimal : Flesh Shaping (on animal)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P77_TreeShaping_StrangleweedVinesIntoLivingTrap : Tree Shaping (turning strangleweed vines into a living trap)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P78_PlantControl : Plant Control
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P79_GoingOut_MindTouch : Going Out (Mind Touch)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P80_MentalHealing : Healing (Mental Healing)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P81_ProbableNearDeathAutoHealing : Probable Near-Death Auto Healing

Original Quest - #15 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P82_Sending_OpenSending_Vision : Open Sending (Sharing a vision)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P83_MagicAura_MagicVisualDetection : Magic Aura (Visual Detection of magic)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P84_SoulNameExchange : Exchange of Soul names

Original Quest - #16 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P85_WatchingOver_Confirmed : Watching Over (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P86_MagicFeeling : Magic Feeling
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P87_HypnoticTrance_OnTroll : Hypnotic Trance (on troll)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P88_Gliding_RoughVersion : Gliding (rough version)

Original Quest - #17 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P89_Gliding_AtDistance_SomeoneElse : Gliding (floating someone else at distance)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P90_CallOfThePalace_Confirmed : Call of the Palace (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P91_PossiblePremonition : Possible Premonition
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P92_SoulNameOffering : Soul Name offering
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P93_PreserverPremonition : Possible Premonition (preserver)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P94_Gliding_HeavyCharge : Gliding (heavy charge)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P95_ProbableHardMetalShaping : Possible Hard Metal Shaping ('fusing metal to stone')

Original Quest - #18 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P96_RockShaping_CombinedToShapePalacesStone : Rock Shaping (combined to shape the Palace's stone)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P97_StoneFeeling : Stone Feeling

Original Quest - #19 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P98_Sending_Link : Sending (Link)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P99_Gliding_ExtremeWeightLifting : Gliding (lifting extreme weight)

Original Quest - #20 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P100_ForcedRecognition : Forced Recognition
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P101_SpiritFeeling_HighOne : Spirit Feeling (High One)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_DeadSpirits : Information : Dead elf spirits choose or not where they go
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_Recognition_ThoseBornFromItAttractInterestedSpirits : Information : those born out of Recognition attract interested spirits
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P102_ExtremeLongevity_Preservers : Extreme Longevity (preservers)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P103_104_105_MindLinking_VisualEffects_CocoonsThinkDo : Mind Linking + Visual Effects + Preserver cocoon's Think-Do + support by the 'Scroll' item, heavily charged with magic
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_SourceAndNatureOfMagic : Information : Source and nature of magic
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P106_GoingOut_HighOnes : Going Out (High Ones)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_OriginOf_Palace_Trolls_Preservers : Information : Origin of the Palace, of trolls and of preservers
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P107_PreserversCocoons_ThinkDo : Preserver cocoon's Think-Do effect + 'out of time' effect
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P108_MentalLink_FromAfar : Mental Link (from afar)


Siege at Blue Mountain - #1 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P109_WinnowillCaseSeenAsEternalDanger : Possible Resistance to the Palace's call of dead spirits
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P110_PowerAbsorption_EggAsSupport : Power absorption (with the Egg as a support)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #2 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P111_SendingDetection_LongRange : Sending Detection (long range)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P112_SubmissionByUseOfSoulName : Mental Submission (by use of the Soul Name)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P113_MindProbeByMindTouch : Mind Probe (by the use of Mind Touch)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P114_GlidingWhileAsleep : Gliding (while asleep!)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #3 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P115_DarkSendWhileGoingOut : Dark Send while Going Out!

Siege at Blue Mountain - #4 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P116_MentalHealing_CalmingDown : Mental Healing (calming down)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_MagicAsleepInHumans : Information : magic is asleep in humans
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P117_GeneticChange : Genetic Change

Siege at Blue Mountain - #5 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P118_ConcentratingMagicIntoItem : Concentrating magic into an item
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P119_MagicFeeling_InHumans : Magic Feeling (in humans!)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P120_Gliding_ProbablyEvenInCocoons : Gliding (very probably even inside cocoons!)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P121_GeneticChange_Confirmed_WithLimits : Genetic Change (confirmed - with limits)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P122_RockShapingAndFloating_HugeMagicFocussing : Power Concentration (huge rock-shaping + floating)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P123_Sending_GatheredPowerToDemonstrateDarkSend : Gathering Power (Sending - demonstrating Dark Send)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #6 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P124_Sending_Limitation_Cocoons : Sending (gliders - strange limitation - preservers' cocoons)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P125_SendingAnalysis_Emotions : Sending Analysis (emotions)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_ControlLinkedWithNeed : Possible information on magic - Control may be linked with need
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P126_SameSoulForTwoBodies_TrickOrReality : Same Soul for two bodies (possible reality / probable Mind Control trick)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P127_TreeShaping_AntiFireEffect : Tree Shaping - Anti-fire effect (+ effect of love on magic)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #7 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P128_MindControlTrick_MoreProbable : Mind Control trick (more probable)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P129_EggAsAMemoryHolder_Confirmed : Egg as a memory holder (like the Scroll of colors - confirmed)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P130_EffectOfWillOnGroupMagic_Focus : Effect of will on group magic (focus)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P131_MentalHealing_EmotionsAndNeed : Mental Healing (emotions and need)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P132_WhatGroupMagicCanAccomplish : What group magic can accomplish
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P133_EggMeantToAbsorbThePalaceAndSpirits_POWER_HUNGER : Egg meant to ABSORB the Palace, the elf spirits inside it, and their power
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P134_SpaceAndTimeTravel_GroupMagic : Space and time travel (group magic)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #8 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P135_MindControlTrick_Confirmed : Mind Control trick (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P136_GroupMagicVersusOne : Group magic versus one (+ interesting remark: 'they KNOW her')
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P137_TruthInSending : Truth in Sending (Wolfrider savagery)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P138_MentalHealing_WakingPowersUp : Mental Healing (waking powers up)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P139_Healing_BOTHElfAndHumanAtTheSameTime : Healing (BOTH human and elf, at the same time!)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P140_InterestingAfterEffect : Information : interesting after-effect
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P141_SpiritHosting : Spirit Hosting
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P142_TheOnlyDifferenceIsLove_ProbableKeyForMagic : The only difference is love (probable key for magic)


Kings of the Broken Wheel - #1 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P143_StrangeGeneticEffects : Magic causes strange genetic effects
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P144_MentalHealing_MagicFeeling_ByPreservers : Magic Feeling (by preservers)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P145_FireMagic_HeatingWave_GroupMagic : Fire Magic (Heat Wave - Group magic - by GLIDERS!)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P146_Floating_StoppingHugeBolt_ExtremeStrength_GroupMagic : Floating (used for stopping the huge bolt) + EXTREME STRENGTH (manipulating that heavy bolt) (Group magic)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P147_FireMagic_Bolts_GroupMagic : Fire magic (Bolts - group magic - gliders or linked to Rayek)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P148_Shield_GroupMagic : Shield (group magic)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P149_MentalLinkPlusSpecificEventTriggersMore : Mental Link + specific event near the Palace = triggering of a special effect

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #2 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P150_FireMagicMorePowerfulInTimmain : Information : Timmain has more powerful fire magic than group
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P151_FireMagic_HUGEEnergyBolts_GroupMagic : Fire Magic (HUGE energy bolts - causing a huge chasm - group magic
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P152_FreeingSpiritsToThePalaceRestoredIt_GroupMagic : Freeing the dead gliders' spirits restores the Palace

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #3 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P153_ShapeChanging_InsidePreserverCocoon_TearingItApart : Shape Changing (High One - inside a preserver cocoon - confirmed as incredible feat)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P154_Sending_FromFarAwayAndIntense : Sending (from far away and intensely so)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P155_Flying_PalacePower : Flying (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P156_ReintegratingEvenAnUnwillingHighOne_PalacePower : Reintegrating even an unwilling High One (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P157_ExtremeVelocityTravel_PalacePower : Extreme Velocity Travel (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P158_EmotionTransfer_SpiritMagic : Emotion Transfer (Spirits power)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P159_EmotionTransferConfirmed_SpiritMagic_KureelBarelyRemembered : Emotion Transfer (confirmed + Interesting remark: dead elves barely remember, even recent and extreme events, like murder!

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #4 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P160_WakingUpPowers_PalaceMagic : Waking powers up (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P161_MagicVision_PalaceMagic : Magic Vision (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P162_MindControl_ForcedSleep : Mind Control (forced sleep)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P163_Healing_AnotherUseOfMagic_sigh : Healing (another use of magic.. *sigh*)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P164_RockShaping_PalaceNotSoDifficultNow : Rock Shaping (..the Palace - not so difficult, now!)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P165_SendingTheCryOut_InsideThePalace : Sending the Cry out (inside the Palace)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P166_RockShaping_Palace_SeparatingAPieceOfThePalace : Rock Shaping (..the Palace - SEPARATING a piece of it!)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P167_DisguisingThePalace : Disguising the Palace (interesting 'A PART of the new land' call..)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #5 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P168_MindTransfer : Mind Transfer
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P169_MentalHealing_ShuttingMentalDoor : Mental Healing (Shutting mental door)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P170_Shield_PalaceInducedPower : Shield (Palace-induced power)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P171_PalaceInducedEffects : Palace-induced effects
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P172_WaterControl_OneSoulSharedHypothesisConfirmed : Water Control (Winnowill - so soon after her exile on that island!)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #6 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P173_MagicFeeling_Extreme_HearingCryBeyondTime : Magic Feeling (Extreme: Hearing a mental cry from beyond time!)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P174_LightControl_VisualEffects_Scroll : Light Control (visual effects - Scroll magic)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P175_LinkWithLittlePalace : Link with the little Palace
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P176_MindLinkingFromAfar_WaterBreathing_SoSoonAfterHerExile : Mind Link (from afar) + Water Breathing (so soon after her exile on that island!)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P177_TimeJump_PalacePower : Time Jump (Palace power)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #7 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P178_MentalCall_Extreme : Mental Call (Extreme)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P179_MentalShield : Mental Shield
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P180_LockSending_FacilitatingBirth : Lock Sending (facilitating birth - without a healer)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P181_MentalShield_ConfirmedAndDevelopped : Mental Shield (confirmed and developped)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #8 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P182_RockShaping_DeterminingAMountainsAging : Rock Shaping (Determining a mountain's aging)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P183_AntiHealing_DrivenByHatred : Anti-Healing (driven by hatred)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P184_Healing_LeprosisLikeTerminalDiseaseInHuman : Healing (a human - leprosis-like terminal disease)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P185_AntiHealing_Controlled : Anti-healing (controlled)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P186_GeneticChange_RemovingTheWolfBlood : Genetic Change (removing the wolf blood from a wolfrider)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P187_EscapingMindLinkAndSendings : Escaping Mind Link and Sending

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #9 :
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P188_WaterSurge : Water Surge
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P189_WaterSwirl : Water Swirl
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P190_WaterRam : Water Ram
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P191_MentalShield_EvolvedIntoMentalBarriersAndMentalSubmission : Mental Shield (Evolved into Mental Barriers and Mental Submission)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P192_Healing_AtDistance_PowerOfLove : Healing (at distance - power of love + Palace)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P193_TimeJump_BackInTime_PalacePower : Time Jump (back in time - Palace power)

Hidden Years #1:
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P194_Premonition_NotEvenWatching : Premonition (not even watching the target!)

Hidden Years #2:
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P195_FireMagic_CreatingFlames : Fire magic (Creating flames)

Hidden Years #4:
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P196_RockShaping_Bridge_PalacePower : Rock Shaping (Bridge - Palace power)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P197_DetectingHumans_PalacePower : Detecting humans around (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P198_WinnowillEntrapped_HypnoticTranceAndPalacePower : Winnowill in hypnotic trance and entrapped within the Palace's walls
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P200_FragmentsOfThePalace_Lost : Fragments of the Palace (lost..)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P199_Healing_CombinedPowersAndPalace : Healing (at distance - many at once - combined powers + Palace effect)

Hidden Years #5:
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P201_Recognition_MentalLink : Recognition (Mental Link effect)

Hidden Years #9½:
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P202_WinnowilShakenOutOfHerTranceByCuttersDeepHatredSending : Winnowill shaken out of her trance by Cutter's hating send
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P203_SendingAsTheVeryAdequatePunishment : Sending.. as the most adequate punishment ever!


Shards #16:
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P204_SoulEntrapment : Soul Entrapment
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P205_WatchingOver_VisuallyConfirmed : Watching Over (visually confirmed)


The Searcher and the Sword:
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P206_HumanSending : Sending (Complete Imagery, BY HUMAN)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P207_PreserverCocoon_ToLearnFromThePalace : Preserver cocoon magic (to LEARN from the Palace)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P208_DeadElfSpiritCalling : Deal elf spirit Calling (confirmed)


The Discovery:
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P209_MagicChanneling_confirmed : Magic Channelling (confirmed) + Learning in preserver cocoon (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P210_MagicShaping_PalacePower : Magic Shaping (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P211_GoingOutWhileCocoonedAndProjectingAMentalImage : Going Out while cocooned and projecting a mental image from afar!
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P212_NoHidingEmotions : Information: no hiding emotions while in this..
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P213_AstralFlight_CalledByLove : Astral Flight (called by love)
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P214_WaterSurge : Water Surge
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P215_HugeSpiralingWaterSurge : HUGE spiraling Water Surge!
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 P216_WaterRope : Water Rope
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_UsButNotUs_AGAIN : 'Us but not us..' - reminds of Cutter's remarks.. WHAT KIND OF ELF IS WINNOWILL, ACTUALLY!?..
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 INFO_InThousandsOfYears : 'In THOUSANDS of years' !!
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: Final Quest #12
TrollHammer

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@Luna: and besides that, they can go 'any-time', and shoot, the Palace can 'look' like anything and exist anywhere, so why not head out the the deep ocean, make a Kandorean bottle city above or below the waves, and then just sit back and laugh at the stupid humans running circles around themselves?

howler monkey wrote:
I'm not sure what this quest is about.. Are the elves getting ready to leave Abode? Or just choosing to live in the palace. I can't remember having it explained.


It's a quest to find Angrif's warfleet-- it got lost with five-fingers at the helm, since they pretty much need Elves, Trolls, or the combination of both (Two-Edge) to get anywhere 'on their own'.


My morbid-quest predictions...

"Cutter, sorry to tell you this... you aren't part wolf, not even close. See, Timmain did become wolf-form for a bit, but then changed her mind and became a near-wolf after seeing that 'owned' pets had their meals handed to them by good owners.

Unfortunately, she had a human owner that was a bit of a freaky pervert.  She didn't really understand what 'normal' human behavior was to know what he did was wrong at first, but by the time Timmorn was born, she decided she'd never tell him. A little flesh-shaping and the wolf story seemed to cover it for the early elves.

Winnie and Leetah (and Timmain, of course) knew the truth, though... In issue #12, they get bored waiting for someone to do something and decide to deliver the punchline to Cutter-- that ain't wolfblood in your veins, Cutter, you're great-to-the-Nth granddaddy was a Shaman...

...and also turns out to be Angrif's great-to-the-Nth granddaddy, just because 'we are breaking every rule' and 'be careful what you wish for'.

Meanwhile, Angrif's warfleet arrive at the Wavedancer camp, who see it for what it was intended to be. The hollow eyesockets of Angrif's skull whistle as the wind blows by, and the salty spray form tears on his cheekbones, because his navy have turn pacifist in the interim: they have come en-mass just to make peace with the Elves for all time, to live in harmony and stress-free bliss...

But as always, there has to be some misunderstanding about it all, and the Wavedancers launch a full scale defensive attack on the fleet.  As the fleet had disarmed itself in its mission-change (to seek out new Elves and new Allies, to boldly go where Angrif has never gone before), they are utterly destroyed.  In the meyhem the Wavedancers end up having about a 50% mortality rate on kamakazi attacks.

In the end, the Wolfriders decide that, since they don't share bonds with their beloved wolves (or, as it turns out, just not Cutter, as the Chief's line had never 'renewed' the bloodline with Wolves, but they don't know this yet), they decide to shed all their ties to the world, all become immortal, and leave the whole 'rest stop' the Coneheads had decided to pull over into so long ago.

The end.
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: Final Quest #12
Miss Gillespie

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#6 blurp: "...The human warlord Angrif Djun, more furious than ever, prepares a massive assault upon every elf living on the World of Two Moons..."
#7 blurp: "...a dire threat surfaces..."
#9 blurp: "...But Cutter’s greatest concern is Angrif Djun’s massive war fleet, which seeks to crush all elves and their allies..."
#10 no mention in the blurp, but we get to see a dying Angrif and his fleet on the cover
#11 blurp: "...Angrif Djun’s war fleet invades the Wavedancers’ waters..."
#12 blurp: "... just as the Wavedancers deliver dire news: the Djun’s warships have arrived..."

oh and this:

#11: "...as a shattering moment of truth occurs between Cutter and Timmain..." so maybe we learn this shattering truth in this issue (or in #17, who knows).

Even though it's a nice gesture, that Angrif's troops are still honour his final wish and attack the elves nevertheless, humans don't react this way. Normally they would turn and figure out, who's going to be the next king (as the Mongols and the Huns did). Just name one historic example, where an army continued an attack even though they knew their leader was dead.
Topics tagged under 12 on Father Tree Holt - Page 3 EmptyTopic: Have you ever dreamed an Elfquest dream?
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I rarely dream an EQ dream but when I do, it's usually about a future issue. I dreamt last night reading #12 online and I have forgotten most about the beginning of the dream, but some stuff I do remember:

I scrolled down and saw the humans had developed much further than I thought, for they had installed sixteen missiles equipped with nuclear warheads neatly arranged like a rocket launcher within a fake volcano ("You Only Live Twice", anyone?), and a sinister, square-faced human in a drab green worksuit looking much like General Groves was ready to give the command to launch the whole lot. I thought, "Two-Edge, you've gone too far this time! That'll be the end of Abode!"

I woke up and quickly made some mental notes as not to forget that bit of the dream.

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