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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptyFri Jun 03, 2016 8:22 pm

sorry! I cut and pasted this and missed a couple lines. Embala is right up until here:

Little Patch's
Grandfather's - Redlance
Rescuer's - Cutter
Brother's - Skywise
Lover's - Aroree
Furmate's - Windkin
Chieftess'
Lovemate's
Nephew's -
Companion's -
Father's -
Employer's -
Lover's -
Son's -
Captive's -
Dance partner's -
Chief's -
Opponent's -
Companion in battle's -
Son's -
Grandfather's -
Daughter's -
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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptyFri Jun 03, 2016 8:24 pm

Also- I should have said Lovemate's instead of Lover for Aroree

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptyFri Jun 03, 2016 8:30 pm

Because Love-ah is so:

Love-ahs!

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptyFri Jun 03, 2016 8:35 pm

Little Patch's
Grandfather's - Redlance
Rescuer's - Cutter
Brother's - Skywise
Lover's - Aroree
Furmate's - Windkin
Chieftess' - Ember
Lovemate's - Mender


Little Patch's
Grandfather's - Redlance
Rescuer's - Cutter
Brother's - Skywise
Lover's - Shenshen
Furmate's - Pike


Nephew's - Kimo (second grade or such)
Companion's - Shuna
Father's - Merchenary
Employer's - Grohmul Djun
Lover's - Winnowill
Son's - Two-Edge
Captive's - Ekuar
Dance partner's - this unindetified Go-Back (Urda?)
Chief's - Kahvi
Opponent's - Lehrigen
Companion in battle's - Krim
Son's - Sust
Grandfather's - Rain
Daughter's - Rainsong
Son - Mender/Wing

Looks like I wasn't so wrong with my first (slightly forced) try. ^^

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Yay! You got it!

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Wing was the answer!

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptySat Jun 04, 2016 4:10 am

Oh... I just kinda didn't think Windkin and Aroree has just having had a one-night stand.
After all, if Pike and Vaya, who for obvious reasons didn't get to take it much further, are considered lovemates, why wouldn't Windkin and Aroree, who could easily have continued being together, be considered as such?

So... Embala, looking forward to your riddle! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptySat Jun 04, 2016 6:32 am

Because there was just sex-- no love. Pike clearly had feelings for Vaya. That's the difference. It's casual sex vs a relationship.

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptySat Jun 04, 2016 10:03 am

But... do we actually know if it hadn't evolved into something more during the intervening 10 years?

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptySat Jun 04, 2016 10:24 am

By that logic, Redlance and Moonshade could be lovemates. Or Dewshine and Sust. Any two characters could, since we haven't seen for absolute certain that they didn't. And then what's the point of the game? If everyone's been potentially in love with everyone and had a relationship that we didn't see depicted, then there is no real way to determine any answer when the word lovemates is part of the puzzle.

It wasn't shown in the comic. It wasn't even hinted at. I think it's a great idea for the purpose of fanfic. But for the purpose of the game- not so much so.

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptySat Jun 04, 2016 11:27 am

There's not suggestion that those pair's you mentioned ever got it on.
It's been shown pretty clearly that Windkin got together at one point were together. However, it simply hasn't been shown if they continued being together. (Or if Ahdri joined in on the fun) Of course they can't really show it, because the relationship between Aroree and Windkin isn't really important for the story.
But again... the EQ.com bios agrees with me

So I'm not saying that any two people are potential lovemates/sex partners, what I'm saying is that if two people are explicitly stated to have an attraction towards each other - even if might mostly be physical - I see no reason to not consider them lovemates.

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptySat Jun 04, 2016 12:09 pm

I wonder what's the point of the discussion - for the purpose of game - anyway?
There are different points of view by different people. And there is a bandwidth
- from "there was at least hinted that more could have happened"
- to "let's stick with what was explicitly shown or said".

I think both is acceptable - Redhead's wider interpretation (which may be proved or ruled out by further story developement) and Lunakat's restriction on prove positive. As long as it becomes neither too hypothetical nor totally restricted on plain fact it's a win ... an additional attraction of the game.
Learning how different a situation/ a relationship is considered by others is a bonus for me.

I love Lunakat's resourcefulness when it comes to descriptions for different relationships and I like Redhead's playful creativity when it comes to probabilities. Both tickles my wits in different ways.
I also see how this can be puzzling when gamers settle close to the opposite poles of the bandwidth.


*thinks about an acceptable riddle*

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptySat Jun 04, 2016 12:18 pm

I don't think there is anything wrong with imagining characters having a relationship. I just think it wouldn't be hard to actually play if we include too many things that we speculate about but that aren't shown. Just in a technical sense. That's all.

But I like your assessment Embala

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptySat Jun 04, 2016 12:28 pm

Well... I'd once again like to point out that Aroree and Windkin were shown. And they're listed as lovemates in their EQ.com bios.
I'm not saying that you should have listed them as lovemates I'm just saying that I missed the linked because I would've listed them as such. Just as I would've missed the Laughing Pike - Kimo link because I only Work with "first degree" relationships.

So... riddle.

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I haven't read the bios. Schooled. Yeah- I would not have picked that up from the story itself

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptySat Jun 04, 2016 4:19 pm

Wing's
grandson's
father's
mother's
student's
teacher's
observer's
grandson's
mother's
furmate's
sire's
sire's
lovemate's
usurpator's
follower's
crush's
father's
lifemate's
patient's
rival's
lovemate's
recognized?

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptySat Jun 04, 2016 7:51 pm

Haha. I'm a literalist. Red is a creative interpeter. And Embala is the wild card!

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptySat Jun 04, 2016 10:34 pm

Laughing

I've added some leaves to my family tree in order to define one right path.

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Wing's
grandson's - Bowki
father's - Dart
mother's -  Moonshade
student's -  Tyleet Kiss
teacher's - Woodcutter
observer's -  Skywise smile (1)
grandson's -  Khorbasi
mother's -  Yun
furmate's - Tier Happy (2)
sire's -  Windkin
sire's - Tyldak
lovemate's - Kahvi
usurpator's - Zey
follower's - Chot
crush's - Shenshen Upset
father's - Suntoucher
lifemate's - Toorah
patient's - Rayek Devil
rival's - Cutter Cool
lovemate's - Nightfall / Redlance SMile
recognized? - Redlance SMile / Nightfall


1: Guess Skywise observed the Woodcutter during the Whole deal with Tyleet being captured.

2: Well... Teir wasn't really that much into it, was he?

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptySun Jun 05, 2016 5:39 am

(1) Skywise - but in KotBW #9
(2) definitely not too much (still trying to refind the scene where it was hinted)


About your solution - neither Nightfall nor Redlance! Wrong turn after  Rayek Devil
... and faceless Tyldak is not amused Tyldak

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Wing's
grandson's - Bowki
father's - Dart
mother's -  Moonshade
student's -  Tyleet Kiss
teacher's - Woodcutter
observer's -  Skywise smile
grandson's -  Khorbasi
mother's -  Yun
furmate's - Tier Happy
sire's -  Windkin
sire's - Tyldak
lovemate's -  Kahvi
usurpator's - Zey
follower's -  Chot
crush's -  Shenshen Upset
father's -  Suntoucher
lifemate's -  Toorah
patient's -  Rayek Devil
rival's -  Cutter Cool
lovemate's -  Skywise smile
recognized? - He hasn't recognized anyone (other than Cutter... in a way...)

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PostSubject: Re: Family Tree Game   9 - Family Tree Game - Page 22 EmptySun Jun 05, 2016 9:30 am

(Shhh! Nobody tell Red what happens in the last few issues of Final Quest! study )

Spoiler alert-- lol !

I think that's pretty much it- isn't it? Red solved the puzzle. Smile

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So... you go by the interpretation that since Cutter and Skywise "recognized" each other, and Cutter and Timmain are "the same person", then Skywise and Timmain are also recognized?
Sure you didn't put the clues down in the wrong order? So it'd be

Cutter Smile (Rival)
Skywise Wink (Recognized)
Timmain (Lovemate)

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@Lunakat wrote:
(Shhh! Nobody tell Red what happens in the last few issues of Final Quest! study )

Spoiler alert-- lol !

I think that's pretty much it- isn't it? Red solved the puzzle. Smile
Laughing Not at all ... and I not even touch the Final Quest at this point!

@Redhead Ember wrote:
So... you go by the interpretation that since Cutter and Skywise "recognized" each other, and Cutter and Timmain are "the same person", then Skywise and Timmain are also recognized?
I might think so Skywise Wink ... but this does not concern the riddle(s).
@Redhead Ember wrote:
Sure you didn't put the clues down in the wrong order?
Sure. Ekuar
@Redhead Ember wrote:
So it'd be

Cutter Smile (Rival)
Skywise Wink (Recognized)
Timmain (Lovemate)
NOPE.  Trinket
"Wrong after Rayek Devil " should mean that Cutter Cool is wrong, right?

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Wing's
grandson's - Bowki
father's - Dart
mother's -  Moonshade
student's -  Tyleet Kiss
teacher's - Woodcutter
observer's -  Skywise smile
grandson's -  Khorbasi
mother's -  Yun
furmate's - Tier Happy
sire's -  Windkin
sire's -  Tyldak
lovemate's -  Kahvi
usurpator's - Zey
follower's -  Chot
crush's -  Shenshen Upset
father's -  Suntoucher
lifemate's -  Toorah
patient's -  Rayek Devil
rival's - Thiro
lovemate's - Leetah Smile
recognized? - Cutter Cool (Aww... but Recognized seems so uncomitted to me.

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