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Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Yeee`s sketchbook
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Yeee`s sketchbook    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyWed Jul 13, 2022 9:16 pm
Yeee wrote:
So they don`t even look like Timmorn but like wolves? Hm, then they are no more recognizable (No Leetah -you are not out of trouble!) , and that would be a little bit sad.

Yes - and no. The ones I'll call Werewelfes in this post look more or less like Timmorn ... and behave like him in his "wild" moods. Or look like Timmain in Shards or Dewshine's wolf soul. Their number is less than the Wolfrider tribe in EQ #1. The rest of The Pack are more or less weird looking regressed wolves. Coniousless about their elfin heritage, able to walk on two legs for a short time and paws that still ressemble hands to some degree. Tam is one of them - that's what made Grenn (Bearclaw) think. Whether there is still an elfin soul buried in this shell ... YOUR story can tell.

I was determined to let THe Pack die out as a wolfblooded Elf tribe ... but I see you like them and already make use of them for your story. Very Happy
'Yeee wrote:
In her distress, Timmain turns to the elves of Sun Valley and asks them for help: "Save my children, you must! PLEASE!"... and we already have the next task (or quest).

So they may or may not survive - depending on Rayek's success.

The Werewelves are: Grenn (Bearclaw) and Dehl (Joyleaf) - she is probably dead at this point, Twen (Nightfall), Eyrn (Moonshade), Sur (One-Eye), Jial ('Scouter) and Lree (Dewshine), Trunc (Treestump), Fahr (Skywise) - who's comparably "elfy", a throwback in Grenn's eyes, Timmain of course, Blae (Brownberry) and Redd (Longbranch), Koei (EyesHigh) and Zash (Shale), Fux (Foxfur) ... some "soulnames " are made up.
No Wyl (Strongbow) please - THIS is important for me.
Marr (Two-Spear) is dead for long - but he is considered their founder and made the fatal codex for this tribe.
IF the Pack will survive als Elves, Zheel (Ember) can be born to Grenn and Leetah (totally YOUR choice, Yeee!) and Dyrr to Grenn and Eyrn. Oh ... and an elfin selfshaper like Kimo may show up (a much less naive one!)
Twen (Nightfall) possibly recognizes Ulm (Redlance) of the Fungusamungus and they have Sohn (Tyleet).

The Fungusamumus just got Willowgreen as their founder/creator and Ulm (Redlance) as youngest member. There might be Goodtree, too. Imagine all of them quite a bit ... tweaked. XD

Yeee wrote:
" I was surprised and happy that you found it so interesting and welcomed my musings!"
To quote Severus Snape: "Always!" Of course Em, I am happy that I am not drooling alone here like an isolated idiot presenting her wacky works and the rest just irritated shaking their heads at it. Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt Icon_smile And it is simply motivating me to stay at work here.

One is glad to bee of service. Wink And even if I hardly comment recently - I LOVE your artwork, Yeee! Would miss it so badly. Hug
Quote :
"It's not a menue served unasked - it's a buffet you can pick from. "
tasty! picking here and there...

cheers ... Good appetite! ... bounce

Fire Elves: So you prefer your Haken and his descendants pale? Do it so!
Haken as a runaway? Practically - yes. But the Runaways are too young to be connected to Haken -they might have been inspired by his example, tho!
Hmmmm ... how to get him out? scratch
The Palace was thrown back in time only 1,000 years give or take ...  so after this time Adya would have tried to find and gather the "tourists" and his beloved Timmain ... but the Palace had been carried off by ta glacier. So he declared everything outside "too dangerous" and ordered palace-hide. Rebellious Haken NOT agreed to this at all. He pulled a Strongbow and used the ice tunnel of the rescue attempt for his escape - together with his lovemate Tislin and their toddler Volca. Good chance that a handful of others follwed him. Does this work for you, Yeee?
btw: Haken's place in the Circle was given to Winnowill, one of the few children of the Hiders. ^^ (in case you WANT to have Winnowill in your story)

Yeee wrote:
Oh no, now it's getting weird. Fish to mate with, that really doesn't fit. This is too grotesque.
[...] So fear not to be in need to make an elf-fish breed.

Oh ... I could do this! XD... but NO - we already agreed that your Koi-Elves will swim around!
The Tidestrays may return IF they become alive and kicking for me.
btw.: Do you want to keep Needle Rock as home for the Koi Elves? Could be a cozy place with the riff-protected atoll around the rock. IF the Tidestrays return there will be a slightly different concept and another home (-> google Playa de Gulpiyuri).

You've mentiond Elfricans - they could fill the Plainselves slot.

YUP ... this airship would work as a Seapunk-Troll submarine! ^^
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Easter EggQuest
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Easter EggQuest    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyThu Apr 21, 2022 9:11 am
PCoquelin is not fond of egg-hunting Suntop Uncomfortable but an appreciated friend of EEQ and loyal visitor!  Thus I serve as his gatherer for the last few years. I hope you did not mind me to gather the eggs for you, Patrice.
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt Pcoque10 Your gift egg and an eggie Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt Sunstr12 that's so yours!

TrollHammer wrote:
I found three eggs in the upper catacombs of Blue Mountain, now I cant show my face above ground... but man they made a good omlet...

Making an educated guess ... these three are family? Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt Maggot12 Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt Pickno12Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt Oddbit12There still a gift egg waiting to be found, Hammer - where else could it be? *riddleRIDDLEs*

This lovely one Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt Brill_18 I dedicate to @ChristinaRaibert - resident Wavedancer Fan #1 and a dearly missed friend. Smooth sand and gentle waves, Christina.




Vaeri wrote:
Haha! Couldn't help yourself and had to make at least one egg huh Embala? XD

Of course ^^ ... cuz this was the only way to make it a real hunt for YOU, Vaeri!
Give us a bit more time to gather egg and play. With family business and Easter vacations it's a busy time.


There are still 7 free eggie for Hunt!
Gather ALL you can get!


Just spare the "SPECIAL Edition" for the dedicated owners - there are some left, too.
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Digitally coloring B&W Images.
Tymber

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Search in: Non EQ Stories/Art   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Digitally coloring B&W Images.    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTue Apr 19, 2022 3:31 am
TrollHammer wrote:

Glad you are still exersizing your creativity, I hope gou are doing well


Definitely keeping creative. I run a D&D (Dungeons & Dragons) game every Tuesday - that has been a blessing.
Then run another game, once a month.
And play in an assort of D&D / RPG related games.

TrollHammer wrote:

Some of these really bring me back to when comics were good, and back then I was clueless that those days could ever end: endless episodes of Iron Man tracking down his leaked tech, battling baddy of the month after another, Ambush Bug cosplay8ng Judge Dread, the occasional origin "must see first ever dont miss" issues... great times...


Absolutely agree. I am re-reading my old Avengers - all digitally - started from Avengers #1 (now on... #337?)
This is the Twitter account I made - as I read and post brief comments about each issue...
https://twitter.com/DailyAvengersHQ

TrollHammer wrote:

The new century has been dissappoingfor me for comics: 8 pages of story that would be more in place in a soap opera but Im paying for 24 pages of mostly ads, the story is a snippet in an appartment with injokes and references Id only get if I had read the last 2 years of comics, no action, no advrnture, just social drama of home life of a couple without kids. But at least they got ever drawn line to be a soupy flowing curve that reminded me of a plate of spegetti, with the color as rich and full and lifeless as a graphic arts dropout can mueter. A far cry from the prior Superman comic Id bought a decade before.


I stopped collecting a few years ago. And really stopped reading about 10 years ago. But there were things like Uncanny X-Men that I had from #60 onward with no gaps, and so around issue #600... I finally said enough, because they rebooted - and it gave me the chance to severe that chain.

I have well over 30,000 comics...
A bunch I was wanting to sell at a local convention (San Diego Comic Fest), but then pandemic, then my wife's health...
And everything turned upside down.
Now I have a garage - stuffed with crap - which includes like 20 boxes full I want to get rid of.
I will probably just resort to throwing mass bundles on ebay - for dirt cheap.

TrollHammer wrote:

Are these covers you find somewhere or do you scan them yourself from your collection? I need to dig mine out for my kids to enjoy.


I find them online, because they're B&W.
So they're the artist covers - the ones used to press and print the comics, that someone has scanned.
For example - this site has some I've grabbed (just the scans, not bought the art) - just to digitally color them.
https://comicarttracker.com/john-byrne-original-art-for-sale
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Abodean Animal Life
Tymber

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Search in: Keeping In Character   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Abodean Animal Life    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySat Apr 16, 2022 2:08 am
Embala wrote:
I want to make sure this list will NOT suddenly disappear! (pictures will hopefully be added step by step)

Aldar wrote:

Allo (Large, vicious saurian creature that usually hunts alone. Covered with horny scales and slightly reddish in color.) - Rahnee's time

Bagfrog (Abodean frog) - Siege at Blue Mountain

Bear - Searcer and the Sword

Beaver/Flat Tail (Found in the forests between Burning Waste and Frozen Mountains, seen on Cutter and Skywise's original quest) - Original Quest

Black-Neck (Herd animal with black patches on its neck.) - Shards

Boar - Dreamtime

Branch-Horn (Similar to a deer) - Hidden Years/Shards

Cuphorn (Herd animal resembling a reindeer, often found on the Plainswaste around Howling Rock.) - Hidden Years/Wild Hunt

Desert Pet Cat (Leetah had one in her hut in the Sun Village) - Original Quest

Desert Pet Dog (A playmate to the cubs in Sun Village) - Original Quest

Desert Lizard (Found in Sorrow's End.) - The Original Quest.
At least two species exists, these are:
- Pet Lizard (Leetah had one):
- Wild Lizard

Desert Vulture (found in the Burning Waste) - Original Quest

Desert Wild Boar (Presumely a small type, found around Sorrow's End. Rayek is seen killing one, and it's probably a common prey.) - Original Quest

Ferret (Pretty much like Earth's ferrets.) At least two species exists, both in Iceholt, and these are:
- Ferret #1 - Kings of the Broken Wheel
- Ferret #2 - Kahvi

Fin-back (Herbivor saurian that looks like the duck-beak dinosaurs - Hadrosaurs - with a fin on its back. It's found in the foggy forest where Adar and Nonna lived) - Original Quest

Fire-Jaw (Bug which bite's causes hallucinations) - Hidden Years

fish

Fliptail - Wavedancers

Giant Hawks (Great birds that the Gliders ride, found at Blue Mountain, where they also nest.) - The Original Quest/Siege at Blue Mountain

Hen (Blood of Ten Chiefs: Bearclaw's time)

Hop-Digger (Similar to Earth's groundhogs) - Hidden Years

Hummer (Small bird) - Blood of Ten Chiefs: The Hummer and Buckthorn story

Jackals (Coyote-like predators found around Sorrow's End. They run in packs.) - Hidden Years

Jack-Wolf (A cross-bread between wolves and jackals, these are the mounts of the Jack-Wolf Riders) - Original Quest to New Blood (at least)

Leatherwing (Abodean bat) - Original Quest

Long-toothed cat (Pretty much as the pre-historic Smilodon) - Wolfrider!

Mallard (Just the same as on Earth) - Blood of Ten Chiefs: The Eldolil story

Mammoth (Like pre-historic Earth's) - sometime shortly after the Palace arrived on Abode, it's seen in an Original Quest flashback.

Maraeva (Massive, wormlike sea monster, with green eyes, red skin, and fangs half the size of an elf. It has arms and webbed fingers.) - New Blood: Forevergreen

Moonhatcher (Waterbird, like a duck) - Dreamtime

Mouse - Hidden Years

No-humps (Small ponies found in the forests between Frozen Mountains and Burning Waste) - The Original Quest

Nut-Catcher (Squirrel-type of creatures, these pictures might show a male and female) - Kings of the Broken Wheel

Oinky-Skrewtail (Abodean pig) - Shards

Owl

Rat - Hidden Years

Ravvit (Abodean Rabbit found in Sorrow's End.) - The Original Quest

Shagback (Abodean bison often found on the Plainswaste around Howling Rock. There are actually at least two species of Shagback. The ones near Howling Rock are a much smaller species than the Great Shagbacks found near the original holt, as seen in Full Circle. Actually, Cutter and Skywise kill one of these in The Forbidden Grove, too, during the part of their journey on pony-back.) - The Original Quest, Hidden Years, Wild Hunt and more

Sheep - Blood of Ten Chiefs: Two-Spear's time.

Shell-Back (Giant armadillo known as the prehistoric Glyptodon on Earth, it's seen on Cutter and Skywise's original quest through the forests between Frozen Mountains and Burning Waste.) - Original Quest

Snake-Tail (A tree dwelling mammal, a cross between a raccoon and a ferret.) - Hidden Years

Snow-Bear (Pretty much like Earth's.) - Original Quest and beyond(?)

Spirit Maker (Poisonous spider) - Wolfrider!

Squirrel (One of these bit Cutter, causing him to go ill by the time he and Skywise first med Adar and Nonna) - Original Quest

Stag (Like our world's stags, they seem to live near the Frozen Mountains, and are sometimes used as mounts by the Go-Backs) - The whole Elfquest saga(?)

Stripehide (a cross between a zebra and a giraffe. Smaller than a zwoot, but bigger than no-humps. They live somewhere on the way to Howling Rock.) - Hidden Years

Stringtail (Scorpion, found in Sorrow's End) - Original Quest

Swordfeet (Large, bipedal reptiles, pretty much like the raptors - a dinosaur type - living on Earth 65 million years ago) - Blood of Ten Chiefs: Freefoot's time

Tree-Gazer (giant sloths known as the prehistoric Megatherium on Earth, it's seen on Cutter's and Skywise's original quest through the forests between Frozen Mountains and Burning Waste.) - Original Quest

Treewee (Primate-looking tree-living animal found in the area around the Forbidden grove) - The Original Quest

Tuftcat (Cat species, Stubtail was one) - Hidden Years

Whitestripe (Abodean skunk) - Siege at Blue Mountain

Wolf (Pretty much like our world's, but here I think of those with elf blood.) - The whole Elfquest saga

Zwoot (Camel/horse crossover found in Sorrow's End) - The Original Quest


UNKNOWN RACES:
Winterleaf (A fox/mongoose crossover. Tanner thought Winterleaf was his wolf friend) - Blood of Ten Chiefs

Deer from the story where Redlance earned his name.

Cat who attacked Tyleet in Hidden Years.



Would you share your list of critters, Hammer? Almost 90 ... there sould be some this list does not cover!


The ElfQuest RPG game adds some-

Bison
Bloodworm - 6 foot leeches
Bristle Boar - The one Rayek gutted
Crocodilian - Crocodiles, essentially
Deer
Elk
Fin-Back, the dinosaur creature seen in the swamp mentioned a few posts up
Hawk, Giant
Mad-Horn - Wolly Rhino, essentially
Snake, Giant
Spider, Giant

Elf-War added -
Blacksails - Killer whales
Furryfins - Seals
Roundhorns - Sheep with horns

Sea Elves added -
Bigjaws - Fish
Snappers - Fish
Bluefish - massive fish prized for their meat due to their size
Boat-Back - Giant turtles
Deepsinger - The largest whales known
Eel
Flying Fish - can't fly, just named so for their jumping
Lizards, Giant
Manytooth - a form of shark
Manyarms - Octopus
Mollusks
Seaglider - fish that have ovoid bodies, long tails, two triangular wing like fins
Sea Snake
Skulker - Sea crocs with fins rather than feet
Stingfinger - Jelly fish
Treenecks - large fish that eat other fish, very rare
Wavedancers - dolphins
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Yeee`s sketchbook
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Yeee`s sketchbook    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyWed Jan 26, 2022 5:34 pm
Yeee has fallen in love! ^^

Aaah... probably a misinterpretation of the pictures I've seen Tuesday night. "Mer-Dawn" must be another story by Jozef Szekeres or a story concept.
https://www.deviantart.com/jozef-szekeres/art/DawnPg0pnl3-Szekeres-56031376
You have the Elf-Fin issue? Shocked Good for you! Like Admitrdly I'm a bit envious ... never managed to find out how to get my hands on it. Is it published only online - or a real print?

I'll do my best to send the scripts this week.
And yes, I have the original WaveDancers Issue #1 to #6 and love them! Very Happy
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySun Nov 07, 2021 2:02 pm
#4 Looks much like Shuna ^^

#5 Lovely Shenshen without doubt.

#6 Jink! ... must think again about #1
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySun Nov 07, 2021 1:59 pm
#1 Hmmm... scratch al that rings for red/black is Jink *blinks*


#2 Going for Bolli!

#3 Was thinking Tamia - but the background is off. Thus Tingeh might be more likely ...

No idea about color range and availabe backgrounds on this maker.
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Fungusamungus ... (now the Rootless Ones)
Prayer

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Search in: Keeping In Character   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Fungusamungus ... (now the Rootless Ones)    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySun Nov 07, 2021 9:33 am
Embala wrote:
I've just reread this thread with all the fuss about the naming of these non-tree-fungusamungus-elves. Isn't it kinda ironical that of all possible names they ended up with "Rootless Ones"?



At first hearing, I absolutely agree. When I first read their naming, I thought that they very well seem to have 'roots' because they resemble trees almost completely, except for their elfin features and...well...unfnished limbs. ^^

Embala wrote:


Seriously - from all the known and hinted tribes these guys are the most Rooted Ones. They are literally part of the Abodian soil! They probably adepted as far as possible to their new home and it felt quite natural that they decided to stay.


I agree. It seems like an oxymoron really. However, after I gave it some thought I have a few theories how it could be meant:

#1) Wendy compared them to fungi. Fungi do not have roots. They have a 'rootlike structure called mycelium.

Roots are primarily applicable to the plant kingdom. Mushrooms, which are part of the fungi kingdom, grow out of mycelium. Furthermore, they do not produce chlorophyll, which some plants use to turn sunlight into energy. Fungi instead get nutrients from the live or dead tissues of plants and animals, most from decaying matter.'.

...so maybe just a hint in the naming that they are not trees but fungi?



2) 'Rootless' could also refer to origin, meaning 'having no family origins or connections, or having no feeling of belonging to a particular place'.

So my thought is, maybe they have lost their sense of family or belonging because their consciousness changed. They may remember Savah but they are not approachable like other elves. They would not held a conversation and say: 'Okay, this is my mom, this is my brother, my cousin etc..'. They became part of the world (and its flora and fauna - the very soil, how you described)  and maybe don't care about social life and such....but care only about getting nutrients from dead tissues (think how they approached Cutter the first time  scratch  ).

It seemed to me they were more than just unfriendly...they seem to have lost the capability to socialise at all, hence being 'rootless' and totally disconnected from their heritage and origin. Being indifferent to the Palace's call.
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyThu Sep 30, 2021 9:14 pm
This becomes tricky indeed, Leanan . It's fun to try! Wink
#4 - redhaired riddle ... NOT Coral. :sctach: ... must be a Wavedancer. We already had:
- Brill, Krill, No-Ripple, Foam, Moonmirror, Spray, Korafay, Fairshell and Farbright, Skimmer (of course),and Longfin -
leaves: Sandsparkle. Well, she's "dark-blonde" with blue eyes for me - but her colors are very variant. And I exclude Wavelet and Little Minnow.

#1 - Yup, I'm right. This fits for Hummer (short brown hair, brown eyes, blue neck thingy)
#2 - blonde, pink and "stormy" - Rellah ... would fit with Willowgreen, too Smile
#3 - looks very much like Willowgreen! ... pretty sure we have not seen her so far. Tears like rain.
#4 - blonde "worrier" under the stars ... named? Hm... daring a guess: young Sapling?
#5 - blondes ... in blue with flowers in the hair - Rainbow. 🌈
#6 - "berry eyes" in the rain - pretty sure the rain is a clue - clueless for now
#7 - educated guess - Softfoot (her vibe fits better for the chiefs mate than #6)

Your beautiful maiden with the brown locks must be Shenshen - she wears her colors and human style.
And the girlie in pink must be Elona in princess mode . otherwise she has stolen her belt. XD Very pleasing color edit, Leanan. Like
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3
Embala

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I've bribed you to complete your "usual suspects", Kat bounce ... and you did more!
I love to see my little darling Tywaves - the jewelry and violet top suit her well. So true to herself ... just as Ribbon. I've figured that she would go for the haze ^^ and the feather adornement is a pretty substitute for a real ribbon.
Li(anne?) is about to blaze into blue flames! Unexpected appearance and unusual design - but it works! Rainthorwen is another darling I love you - and I've heard the call. ^^ Hope to be able to do something for her soon.

More Wavedancers Very Happy and riddles to most part ... O.O Let's see what you might have for us, Leanan! Fishy
#1 - blue riddle ... my bets are on Farbright!
#2 - whitehaired riddle - must be Fairshell of course!
#3 - greeneyed riddle  - well, hairdo fits Drift ^^ ... but I go for Shimmer!
#4 - redhaired riddle ... is a true riddle. To give it a try: Coral how ChristinaRaibert colored her?
#5 - no riddle ^^ ... this must be Longfin! Too perfect. I love you She even has sad eyes.

New lovely maker ... and Lady Venovel is a most beautiful start! *claps* Just love her expression.
Young Shuna with a curious wolf cub - lovely. And there is sweet Elmy with Twigleg! ^^ Very Happy Well done!
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyMon Sep 27, 2021 4:17 pm
You're a living "mers" generator, Yeee! Wink *echoes Leanan* ... and at least YOUR auru looks pretty much like Rayek. ^^ with Yann as Cutter ... does this turn Zoom into Mermain? XD

#13 - "... - see who she is with" What does this mean, Leanan? We already had Gibra ... scratch did we?
# 4 - still a riddle ... - but Mardu would complete the company! Thinking about it - colors fit!

new #1 - I see Wavedancers Fishy ... No-Ripple
#2 - Foam
#3 - Moonmirror for sure!
#4 - most likely young Spray Very Happy
#5 - and this one ... green hair, green eyes, a next-to-nothing for skirt - must be Korafay! :korafay:


You got hooked, Kat! bounce Tynami is such a cutie *hugs and cuddles* and young change looks sweet. Was it "Stormbreeze" with the blue dress? Last not least a purring Kat! *chuckles*
Would you add Tywaves with this violet "haze" of nothing? O.O Or - would this belong to Ribbon?
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3
Embala

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#12 - *grin* Krim at a bad-hair-day! XD Now the rest makes totally sene ...
#13 - this girlhas violt skin ... *is lost* Need a hint.

cheers for Minyah! I I love you your solution, Leanan.
new #1 - Time for chieftesses! and finally time for Goodtree Very Happy
#2 - Skyfire
#3 - Rahnee! - I LOVE her!
#4 - could be Ember ... but the hair should be wavy and wie already have her. Lost for now.
#5 - Yun - next try ... would make sense for me . Or - ist it Urda?
#6 - and this Yun? (before Stargazer's Hunt coloring)

(had vorgotten that this maker aktually HAS white hair :rool: )

Your girls turned out fab!
Leanan looks very true - intriguing take on Dilah - intense Raven - and another lovely Greensong.
Sharktricker is a tease - Greensong a delicate beauty - and shy reluctant Aureen.
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3
Leanan

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#12 isn't Urda, #13 isn't Goodtree. New #1 is indeed Minyah! cheers And those are Serrin, Yeyeen, Rillfisher and Trueflight! Well done! Very Happy
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3
Embala

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not too bad this time ... but wrong again with the current riddles. Let's try again ...
#12 My first speculation was about Urda - short (fair) hair and generally fitting top
#13 the background must have a reason - standing for magic? this and the color scheme ... makes Goodtree?

new #1 a bald head - a sunmaiden ... who says that Minyah has hair? ^^
#2 this time it must be Serrin - everything fits!
#3 but this short-haird beauty is a riddle. VERY pale ... Yeyeen?
#4 I'm lost ... really O.O ... did we already have Rillfisher?
#5 here my bets are on Trueflight!
I'm amazed that you still find easily recognizable chars in this maker, Leanan - and I love your imagination! Like
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyFri Sep 24, 2021 3:37 pm
Lokks like I was slightly more successful this time. ^^

#1 - Brownberry - confirmed
#2 - Joyleaf - confirmed
#3 - Eyes High - confirmed
#4 - I'm obsessed with Crescent! XD Let's take her sister Freetouch - short hair is a clear hint. ^^
#5 - Ahhh ... young Satreeka again! I love you Noticed the skin tone - thought it's just flushing/blushing.

#6 - Bethia - confirmed
#7 - Toorah - confirmed
#8 - second best guess: Dodia -Palace style
#9 - Kahvi - confirmed
#10 Vaya - confirmed  cheers

#11 - violet eyes, a familiar necklace ^^ and a violet top - this time it is Crescent! (with long hair)
#12 - looks like Yun ... kinda
#13 - a riddle ... with sad eyes. Blond and green. Willowgreen?
#14 - Cool version of Kasleen! Like
#15 - and lovely Sefra comlete with headpiece. Very Happy
Definitely High Ones around. Well done, Leanan!
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Elfquest Dolling Thread 3    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyThu Sep 23, 2021 9:52 pm
Awww... I'm really disappointed that the first two were not Crescent and Rillfischer. I'd have liked them this way. Not so surprised for missing the others. XD It's a guessing game with this maker - and fun to "imagine". Smile Next try:

Still going for Beloved Dead ... next idea: Brownberry!
#1 - bangs, color and necklace fit - much better than my first idea!
#2 - taking my competitive thoughts - blue eyes and flower adornement: Joyleaf? Top is still wrong - Goodtree.
#3 - Eyes High (already confirmed)
#4 - hair-do of "hazel eyes" always looked familiar - Crescent. Now the "wet" top makes sense. ^^
#5 - unsure about Gibra's eye color - going with the High One vibe of the dress!
No reason to apologize, Leanan. *bows to your effort and imagination* Hug

#6 - auburn locks, green eyes, turquoise top with frills - perfect for Bethis.
#7 - the maker is missing a hood ^^ - Toorah for sure!
#8 - a sunmaiden with bangs, staright dark hair, brown eyes - and a prettier version of Serrin's style.
#9 - either a complete riddle or Kahvi ... judging from the eyes and the lack of maker options XD
#10 -and because this cutie must be Vaya. *pout* I want it.


Koiyeee looks awesome, Yeee! Love your white strands and the spreckles - and it fits the koi design. ^^
Yeah cheers for the new top.  It's fantastic!
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Waiting for Christmas
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Waiting for Christmas    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTue Feb 02, 2021 4:40 pm
This season ends with Candlemas!

Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt 2020_l19

The Lightbringer is not from ElfQuest but older artwork by Wendy Pini for sure. Obviously this delicate girl is working magic and her bright crystal adornements probably were the inspiration for the Palace shards woven into the elfin clothing.
Perfect ending!


Educated guess, G0lden. Dito, Redhead! But this is not a usual suspect - yet a very familiar one!
Trust yourself, Hammer - you are perfectly right! HUMANS! Sending FIRE! FIRE!
We see indeed Nightrunner's eyes sending a warning to Cutter, Wolfie. In those days wolves were truely magic - some could even send or receive sendings.

Thank you for the kudos, Wolfie. Very Happy Shows that it was worth the extra effort. This panel is the very scene from EQ #1 - eyes, nose and sending star are in their original place! I've simply added some Christmassy adornements. ^^
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: The ElfQuest Movie of 1994 / 1995.
TrollHammer

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Search in: All the Many Colors   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: The ElfQuest Movie of 1994 / 1995.    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyWed Jan 20, 2021 10:09 pm
Dunno why I didn't see this. Pretty rough, and wish we could get the data files to rework it if its been dropped, but its a little of something.


I've been reflecting on the question myself as to what Id write if handed a blank script... Im really not sure, but have a few ideas...

A) just do the OQ and related stories:
  1) as is in the books, no changes. ...or...
  2) mildly changed, similar smoothed out details like Tymber is exploring. Id open with the forest already burning, though, reeling from an all out attack, perhaps the tribe split with one defending the holt while they grab what little they can, with the "rescue team" off camera getting Redlance. The holt catches fire, the attack becomes too much amd they have to leave, but they are worried about the rescuers getting back. Just as they are having to leave, Cutter gets back and agrees they must leave, and leads them to the trolls.  We dont need to see the sacrifice scene, they can explain it all with the trolls later or even later yet at Sarrows End. (More such subtle, "freshen up" changes from a storytelling point of view that changed little that happens, unless a whole course or plan is made up for the whole long story and any "down the road" changes need made for efficiency or effect. Since we already know the story flow we can add in recursive side plots easily, which is even more intriguing of an idea since time travel is involved (paradoxes, causes for the loop, etc, perhaps that ALL of the reasons (rayak, troll revolt, planet harmonics, Jink deleting half the spirit's memories ;P ) are all to blame, and we see all of them weave together in the tapestry of the Scroll of Colors?)

B) Start instead with Wolfrider,
  1) perhaps with Demontricker's meddling being well intentioned but backfiring. Do OQ as a sequel, and adjust things accordingly. In a way the OQ seems very small and rushed, with little context as to why things are as they are. Yes, the humans are superstitious and have vague memories of thr Palace crash, but the whole planet against them? Trolls as well, with no reason other than "you're different, and we need to beat the racism horse to death one more time", (sorry, Im of the opinion thst politics makes bad fantasy and that particular hot button topic is so overdone it might actually be causing the very thing it says its against. Like I said, I hate politics, not trying to start a debate, what Im saying is provide some sensical backstory that shows the various situations prior to kicking the Wolfriders out of their home. An outsider might see iss #1 as "ok, so nomadic people are getting pushed out of where they currently awere living... They look like strong survival types, this isnt a big deal, they'll just live somewhere else". Theres no reason to feel attachment to the Holt, the Father Tree, or anything else. As it sets, other than Redlance being injured (which could happen from the cave in or the fire or any number of other things), the humans could be replaced by a thunderstorm and natural causes of forest fire, and other than some specific people recalling things IRL as a connection, there's no reason to feel bad about the holt burning.  If we play around in the Holt a while we can habe newcomers feel a reason why this is a bad thing.
 2) do Wolfrider (and other parts) as a streaming service series with lack of format. (For those that have seen it, Im thinking like Love, Death, and Robots), where there is no set length, the stories are related and tied together, but not necessarily continuous, perhaps if its needed we have them narrated by Pike as rememberances at various times (he's remembering something else while something present is happening). This fits the established "short story" and "howl" format in the story quite well, and can develop the series more naturally, with freedom to throw in a variety of perspectives as various storytellers spin tales free of continuity (semi sorta like Game of Thrones hopped around in location and time), so yoi could have a Go-back storyteller tell about Two Spear and Kahvi long before the Wolfriders meet them, or the Mother of Memory recalling the trek across the sands...

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C) Of course I comoletely forgot my personal slant on it: dump the Elves and let the Trolls have the story tols from their perspective... TrollQuest!
1) as a story following Picknose the way EQ follows Cutter
2) as a set of shorts through the history of the Trolls
3) from Two Edge's perspective, with his meddling and games


Theres a lot of ways to go... Its hard for me to figure out what modern cinematic marvels could do with the story these days, and with the "silver screen" possibly changing over the next few years to rely on streaming services and whatnot, there may be other opportunities. Look how Star Wars is hopping around playing with blank spaces in the story. It was rough at first getting people on board with Solo and Rogue One, but things are getting hammered out to be more accepted to play in the background.  I think EQ has some modern day potential, its just going to take the right combination of people to make it work.

(Additional story flesh out from A2: changes from entering caves to leaving tunnel of golden light: capture Picknose who is unwilling to help them at all, attempts to lead them off away from the inner kingdom or into a trap. Cutter reminds him that he spent some time within as a youth and knows these caves well, and draggs Picky to the throneroom. This enhances his position with the King, proving their good intentions in that he could have led them to the store rooms or 'treasure' nd as Picky as their witness, they didnt even harm anyone, just seeking refuge, and hold all the cards as an honorable tribe. Greymung still betrays them, perhaps even after wagering a gamble he "loses" to make the "tunnel of golden light" seem more like a treasured secret place instead of the stacked deal it was. Anyway, they go out the ToGL but instead of stark cliffs with a nice neat, ground level opening from the tunnels, the tunnel opens to a ravine in the side of steep mountainous cliffside, with a bend that cant be seen around. Theres sign of debris indicating some kind of forest in the shadow of the ravine, and the "soil" looks like fertile soil in this light (perhaps early morning, with it nice and cool as the desert can be. I live in one, some mornings can be quote pleasant compared to the later mid-day blaze). The ravine is long enough the elves are completely out of the tunnel when picknose causes an avalanche to bury the tunnel entrance before they realize they've been duped. (Picknose escapes or stays depending on other changes later. Maybe gets away but caught outside and shows up later?)

I like the idea that its not Tatooine/sahara dunes. A brackish wasteland of drought stricken, rough, dead terrain is easier to sell and more interedting. Terrain features that suggest theres a reprieve from the heat but there is none. A dry creek bed suggesting a path to go doen to wster, but there is none. No way back into the cave, and the mid day sun proves that even the ravine is no shelter from the heat. Battle wounded and weary elves and wolves stare out into a bleakness that almost wsihes they could face the flames again, ad their might have been a lake to wait for the fire to blow over if the humans hadnt been attacking as well. As they ponder thier circumstances, with scouter up on the ridge to look for a path, Skywise weaves his twine to carry the lodestone, and they follow it in hopes of refuge, water, amything that is beter than this.

The terrain would additionally allow for a more natural "holy cow" moment of finding Sarrows End, as well as a more sensical path for a raid, a place for the Wolves to hang out later and so on. The desert is full of life, a real desert that is, but a desert stricken by drought and seared by wildfires can leave it very desolate until the following year. As the Father Tree Holt, a day's walk away, had been experiencing drought, this would follow suit and provide for a more livable area for Ember and Suntop to grow up in. Dwell on the new settling in but rising unrest in Cutter. Spend some time telling the story. Let the audiance FEEL what its like to be an elf, a wolfrider, a naturalize alien on this world of two moons... EQ is an experience for me, not a quick speedrun.
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: The ElfQuest Movie of 1994 / 1995.
Tymber

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Search in: All the Many Colors   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: The ElfQuest Movie of 1994 / 1995.    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyMon Jan 18, 2021 11:04 pm
TrollHammer wrote:
Sorry for the double post... I figure if this needs to be split into uts own thread, though, Id make it easy.

If I may, @Tymber (and all else), if we were given a blank script and asked what we would want to see put on the screen as something Elf Quest themed (trying to keep all other constraints as open as possible), what would YOU want to see?


Hah - did you make a new post? Did someone merge it back into this one? You mention splitting it? I don't mind.

My script would follow very close to what we see in the Original Quest.

Starts with a Palace screaming towards the world - doing quick cuts - showing Palace falling/going inside, seeing everyone panicking - yelling at the Preservers ("Fairies") to wrap them up/Palace falling/inside/until impact into a mountain where we see the Palace remains intact, but causes a crater. Show seasons pass, rocks collapse, snow comes, and the Palace is slowly buried.

This is all done in about 3 minutes of film time.

Cut to inside the Palace, and one of the Elves breaks out of the webbing; tearing it away. Looks around to see others in webbing. Tears it open and together they head outside. They're greeted by cave men (why, in the OG did it look like the Palace crashed next to a forest but in reality at the end of OG it's dead center in a mountain? My script would make it so it was always a damn mountain). The cave men react as they did in the comic and begin slaughtering - and so a few escape, and see wild life, imitating wolves and bears, to quickly confuse the humans and thus easily escape.

Show the humans sitting around the Palace, show a scene with coming and going seasons, very rapidly - and slowly see the humans evolve into what we see the followers of Gotra (sp?) look like. Pan across the map, while doing this - zooming through the world with a first person perspective - along the land, woods, rivers, lakes - until it stops just above the holt - And we see an elf trapped - Redlance - and see Cutter and Skywise watching. We see Cutter touch his forehead and mentally call the others (to show they're capable of telepathic communication that EQ fans will know as Sending). They rush in and rescue Redlance but the human shaman shouts to burn them out of the woods and immediately set fire.

The elves flee to the trolls - who look like the same trolls we saw inside the Palace, running around, just bigger, stronger.

They explain what has happened - and Greymung says he knows of a wooded area - tells Picknose to lead them. And it follows end of issue #1, and into #2 - where he betrays them and traps them. The elves, travel with the wounded Redlance and after several days come to Sorrow's End, where rather than the big fight - the Wolfriders introduce themselves - and many of the elves are fascinated, but not all that startled - they bring them to Savah who explains she was one of the High Ones who fled - and she explains that when the Palace came to the world of two moons, something siphoned the magic - and the Palace crashed - and that the High Ones had to flee the humans. Skywise sees a large stone - and asks about it - and she explains it's a fragment of the Palace. He asks to break a piece off and sees it always points the same way. (So I change how he gets the lodestone; and also indicate it's the stone trying to get "back home").

Fast forward a few years, and Cutter mentions to Skywise he's interested in going back to see if they can find the Palace of the High Ones. Following the stone - it leads Cutter, Skywise and several of the other Wolfriders who go (One-Eye, for example, Strongbow, and perhaps some of the Sorrow's End, such as Rayek) back to where they just came where the trolls are gone. We see Cutter & Skywise's budding relationship here as they recall all kinds of stories together; and they discuss very other members of the tribe, so we get to know a little about each one. Leetah finds herself more and more drawn to Cutter, which makes Rayek jealous. This builds up over their travel.

I would skip Blue Mountain, and make it so they eventually arrive to the mountain. There they encounter the frozen trolls who are far more brutal - and when Cutter almost dies (similar to how he did in the OG) - Leetah touches him to heal him - and in that moment Recognition happens - which makes Rayek furious. The Go-Backs arrive and help - and turn the tide of battle; there's some casualties (such as One-Eye). We meet the main Go-Backs (Kahvi and Vaya) who talk about they've been trying to "go back" to the Palace for years now. Now with the Wolfriders, who possess magic (such as Redlance) and the Sorrow's End (Leetah and Rayek), the Go-Backs believe they have a chance now.

Epic battle. Palace reclaimed.
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Waiting for Christmas
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Waiting for Christmas    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyThu Dec 31, 2020 8:15 pm
I'm a bit surprised that you have a hot spot for Zarhan Fastfire, Yeee. On the other hand - "explosive" temper is your thing. XD You got the picture language well Smile Fastfire needed flames. ^^
Just for the records - his story is "Colors", issue #1 of Blood of Ten Chiefs.

... just as you've pointed out, Redhead. I like your hint that Savah's light magic is a possible variation of fire magic.
You are so right about the royal family ... and Oddbit's obsession, Red! rofl

Tyldak and Kahvi were just made for this glass bauble. Just the right "Let it Snow!" feeling!
A dark cave for the Trolls, sitting together and waiting for the new year. And it's an old Troll tradition that the Queen gets a new jewel to adorn herself. ^^
More likely a human family if you speak of the 12 Nights, Wolfie - Aro, Thaya and their boy. I love you I hope they found a waterhole and a better future. I want it.
Zarhan is one of the Elves who dislikes to be banned into a usual bauble. He longs for something special.
Happy New Year, Wolfie! May it start well and become better and better! Like
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Jinkle Bells.... Just for laughs...
Sorandril [BANNED]

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Search in: Sendings   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Jinkle Bells.... Just for laughs...    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyMon Dec 21, 2020 10:33 pm
Cant. Stop. Laughing.

This reminds me...

The local malfunctioning Aksayamati thinks blood type governs race, and that the only true humans are O-....

Reminds me of that old goth band...

I have half a mind after hearing his rants to get a band of fae together and call it Type A+....

Our hits gonna be called "Blue #1..." ...yep, its about my half sister
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Stargazer's Hunt #4 is out
Stormcatcher

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Stargazer's Hunt #4 is out    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyThu Oct 29, 2020 8:21 pm
I was just reminded of HY #1: "You must go after Lashpaw?" - "If only to meet and part well."

Now that is true wolf-bonding...
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Nightfall - I'm the sword, the spear, the arrow
Tymber

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Search in: Keeping In Character   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Nightfall - I'm the sword, the spear, the arrow    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyWed Jul 15, 2020 4:04 pm
From the day I saw Nightfall, way back in ElfQuest (OQ) #2 (I didn't have #1), I thought she was so beautiful. And seeing how she stayed with Redlance in the desert when it came to moving on and he couldn't - pretty much just sealed my love of her forever.

She was also, to me, one of the most beautiful. Because she had thickness to her, which got away from what you always see in super hero comics, of ultra thin waists and big breasts.

And this was just the nail in the coffin, to have my forever infatuation with her.

Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt Oq10-33

I hate how she's currently being drawn in Final Quest (well, I suppose it's technically over) - because they took away that thickness that they had her with and made her bone skinny. Sad

Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Stargazer's Hunt #3
Tymber

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Stargazer's Hunt #3    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyFri Jun 12, 2020 3:59 am
That's Yun with Goldruff, right?
Because if we're looking at updated profiles... Yun's is incorrect, still.
https://elfquest.com/yun/

Yun is the only known child of Skywise. However, her heart is as big as the sense of adventure she inherited, and she ended up adopting the orphaned-human cub, Khorbasi and raising him as her own.

So, this is interesting... how my view is different than everyone else's.

Let me start by saying, nothing is going to compare to the Original Quest.

Nothing.

To date, that's some of my favorite comic book story telling in ALL of comics (including Marvel, DC, Image, etc).

That said, Siege and Kings were great - but even there, I didn't care for the toothpick look Wendy went with for everyone. Everyone was suddenly super bone thin. But, I still enjoyed it. I think she was trying to evolve the character's appearances from the 70's bell bottom looks some had (namely Cutter) originally.

The stuff that followed, was... OK. Some good, some bad. A lot of the "contracted work" I didn't care for - not because it wasn't Wendy, but because it didn't feel like ElfQuest - whether that was Jink, Rebels, Wild Hunt - even some of the ElfQuest specific stuff felt off to me - like Kahvi, Two-Spear, Rogue's Curse, etc.

Then Final Quest comes along.

Pretty much the entire time - the entire time - I complained. Every issue, I was more frustrated than the last. But I hung on, waiting for that great reveal.

That great reveal was Cutter's demise (not in a heroic way, mind you) - which, already bothered me. I hate Pulp Fiction because you had a main character shot on the toilet. (Yes, I get that movie has a ton of fans. I am not one of them). Then the Cutter/Timmain soul thing.

That nearly broke the camel's back for me.

It cheapened everything - EVERYTHING - about Cutter to me.

It utterly ruined Cutter. Forever. FOR. EVER.

That to me was similar to Vader in Return of the Jedi. I felt compassion towards Vader, despite the evil we'd heard about, when Luke takes off his mask, and he had tried to redeem himself by destroying the Emperor.

Then episode III comes out - and we see him essentially murder children.

His redemption in Return of the Jedi was ruined. Because then all I could think was he was a child killer. And that's unforgivable.

But Stargazer's Hunt is announced and I say, "It's ElfQuest. I've collected it all my life."

Issue #1 comes out, I scream, shout, yell, everyone is bone thin, art looks weird. Story isn't interesting. More lame twists.

Issue #2 comes out - OK, this seems better than the first issue. More enjoyable. Getting some character moments here.

Issue #3 comes out - I find myself enjoying it. Not kidding. I still can't stand Jink. The entire notion that she becomes this futuristic character. Had I no idea of what she becomes, I'd probably more invested in her. However, knowing that she becomes a futuristic character - I also know nothing is going to happen to her. She won't get killed or die, or else that breaks... whatever ElfQuest considers a "time stream." Skywise bailing on Jink, not a surprising move. People claim "oh, nice, father of the year" - but the Wolfriders led short lives, back in the day. It probably was not uncommon that someone else raise someone's child because parents perish. And it's not like Skywise was leaving her in a dangerous situation. She was in the Palace. Safest place in the universe in his eyes. And time being whatever it is in ElfQuest, he probably thought he could make his way back easily.

Now, what I don't get is exactly why he left. That reasoning seems unclear - I mean, I get why. But I don't get what he hoped to accomplish. If Jink can just "teleport" to Goldgruff - why couldn't Skywise teleport to where ever he was going - rather than going the long route - so that he'd need a Preserver to wrap him up? That part eludes me.

And then someone in this thread mentioned Jink was the only character showing nipples all the time. And I had to go back and look. I was like, "How did I - as a dude - miss nipples?" lol Because all I ever see is Timmain barely being covered. And I only found one place where Jink's "nipples" are "visible" - and it's one panel - and I had to strain to see it - it wasn't blatantly obvious to me. Clearly, since I missed it (it's the panel before we see Goldruff rubbing his arms).

I don't get the copy and paste references folks have mentioned? I get the idea of copy and paste, but I am not recognizing where that's happening?

Is it great? No. But it's miles better to me, both art and story, in this issue - than any given issue of Final Quest. And maybe I am just thankful for that.

Although the wiped memory thing is becoming a troupe. It happened a few months back in a recent issue of New Mutants too.

My actual main annoyance is Goldruff - and not his name (I may be typoing it, don't care to check) - and Yun. These two bare too much of a resemblance to Cutter and Skywise (for obvious reasons) - but it just looks like they're preparing to write the "Goldruff & Yun Adventures" of ElfQuest to replace Cutter and Skywise with their children who bare a very, very, very strong resemblance to them. Like why couldn't Goldruff have Leetah's skin tone? Or her hair color? Instead of being a Cutter-clone. And Yun, with the Skywise head band rather than the old cloth headband she used to wear. Ugh.
Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Skin color- how much does it matter?
Tymber

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Search in: All the Many Colors   Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Skin color- how much does it matter?    Topics tagged under 1 on Father Tree Holt EmptyMon May 18, 2020 7:24 pm
Kojiyumi wrote:

From what I recall reading... somewhere... Bearclaw's lifespan was close to 1,200 years. Though he was also said to be one of the longest-lived wolfriders at that time (they have to live well over 100 given how many pebbles the Sun Village wolfriders had in their jar at Sorrow's End) And given the evolution of humans from first sight to current, I'd wager there was close to 10,000 years of time for the trolls to natural select to what they are now.

Embala wrote:

You are right, Koji. I remember that it was stated in the timeline that the crash happened 10,000 years before EQ #1.
If I'd need more reason for their developement - it's likely that the Palace fueled their mutation, before and after the crash.
I don't remember any Trolls before Bearclaw's time in the comics, Tymber. No size comparison available.

Prism wrote:

I reckon Firstcomer Troll's size being about the same as modern trolls was a Wendy&Richard retcon,since the Firstcomer trolls were only knee-high to the High Ones. I always thought the trolls grew in size whilst the elves shrunk and as for the humans,well they might'v been australopithecus and around the time of Fire and Flight cro-magnon.


10,000 years would make more sense, for the troll's evolution. Humans evolved from "cave man" to "stone age" pretty much, in ElfQuest, but not much beyond that. I mean, I guess at 10,000 year - we can also chalk up the magic aspect. It certainly wouldn't have changed Greymug / Picknose's folks being close to the Palace, since they were not close (but had evolved the same as the Gutterkraw/frost trolls).



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