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Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Some questions about the First Comer Troll King
Embala

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Search in: All the Many Colors   Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Some questions about the First Comer Troll King    Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptySat May 19, 2018 2:52 pm
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I had thought that the original series said that the Trolls & Preservers evolved over many generations from the animals the High Ones brought with them.

This was said by Timmain (via Suntop) in OQ # 20:
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt Oq20p210

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Yet the First Comer King seemed to imply that he was one of the original apes that got brought on-board the Palace.

And This is from FQ #18 - how the Firstcomer Troll remembers:
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt Fq18p211

For me it is one of the many contradictions between the storyline from Original quest til Final Quest - an inconsistency at least. It puzzled me the same way as it did puzzle you, mojojojo.

Timmain clearly sais:
- We saw many generations of our pets come and go.
- Our shell, suffused with self-changing magic, affected them.
- The burrowers evolved, gained thought and speach.
- Eventually they became as long lived as we.
Upshot: The Trolls as we know them are the result of a generations lasting evolution - enhanced and speeded up by the Palace.

Firstcomer Troll remembers:
- to dig and find in the burrows of our home-sphere
- the Palace changed ME
- and generations of Trolls born within it
Upshot: HE came from the homeworld as an ape-like proto-troll and was shapechanged and mentally and physically envolved by the Palace
and there were generations of Trolls born in the Palace and changed as well.

Inconsistency.  scratch ... or misinterpretation?
Firstcomer Troll uses the term "home-sphere". Can he refer to the Palace sphere instead of the homeworld? No. Some panels later he's speaking of "Back to the palace-ship and then the home-sphere!"
Inconsistency.

Now I can make up my mind and ...
1. shrug it away as one of the many weird inconsistencies, retcons and changes and mistakes in FQ
2. go with the infamous rule #1 - "There are no ..." you know how it goes.
3. decide that one of them remembers wrong - probably Firstcomer Troll has mixed up oooold legends with reality - and the "richest soil of all" was just a "terraformed" home-world area in the Palace.
4. suppose that some proto-trolls got an extra dose of magic, became immortal first and then developed by magical transformation into Trolls.

What's right for you, for other readers ... or how much more different explanations can be found - make up your mind yourself. That's the best answer I can give here.


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Secondly he seems to say that he will go back to being one of those ground borrowing apes when he gets back to the home world. Is that really what he wants? If so why? I don't think many humans would want to go back to being an  

I don't think the Firstcomer Troll wants to regress into an "Australopithecus" proto-troll.

I can imagine what he means, tho. He remerbers that he was "digging in the home soil" - a simple being with a simple task. He remembers that he was a good digger - he did right and his task was satisfying. He was content with his life.

Then he became a rebel - and this rebellion turned out to be a major fail. "When I first saw this unfriendly world ... how I longed to undo my mischief!". This experiance was not satisfying at all ...
... nothing specific known about the following some 20,000 years ...
and then they made him King. Not a job he was fond of: "Too bad they made me King. All I do is sleep and eat ... and gaze at the treasures they bring."

He longs for this old life, satisfying work and contentness. No more worries. He considers himself as "Never smart ..." - maybe we should see him as the Troll model of Forrest Gump? Being a millionaire mawing the lawn. ^^

by the way: the panorama page of Homeworld shows him on top of a crystal tower at Savah's side in his King's mantle ... Rolling Eyes Inconsistency? Change of mind? *shrug*
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Final Quest #19
LurkingCat

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Final Quest #19    Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyWed Mar 29, 2017 4:43 am
Yeah... Here is the message:
http://elfquest.com/final-quest-issue-19-release-date-update/[/mention] wrote:
From Dark Horse: “Final Quest #19 is in fact coming out tomorrow 3/29/17. This is a failure on our side to make sure that the new schedule was in place with everyone here at Dark Horse with enough time to pull it from the pipeline. We thought that this was handled by our scheduling, print and production team. … So EQFQ #19 is out tomorrow (March 28, 2017). What this means for the rest of the schedule doesn’t change. EQFQ #20 will arrive June 28th. So the three month gap will arrive between #19 and #20. The rest of the schedule is in place for #20-24 to lead us to the final Feb. 28th 2018 release for #24. But the 3 month gap we had hoped to come between #18 and #19 will come between #19 and #20.”

There you have it. I’m sure there will be the usual scrambling to download the digital version, as well as the usual observance of spoiler rules for those who are waiting for the print edition. The lesson in all this? Once in a while, the Palace blows up, and then behind the scenes we work our butts off to put it back together. All is well now.
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: "How Come I Never Noticed...?"
LurkingCat

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: "How Come I Never Noticed...?"    Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptySun Oct 30, 2016 1:50 pm
I never noticed that in OQ19 after the battle Skywise sits next to the stone where his lodestone is from.

I knew that the stone was moved to the Frozen Mountains to be Guttlekraws stool, but I never noticed that  Skywise saw the stone and "reunited" his piece with the stone for a short while.

I wonder where the stone is now... Maybe we see it in Final Quest #18 again?
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: racial perception in ElfQuest - split from issue #18 discussion
PCoquelin

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Search in: All the Many Colors   Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: racial perception in ElfQuest - split from issue #18 discussion    Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyWed Oct 19, 2016 2:50 pm
@Elwing wrote:
Coming into a dedicated fan forum of any kind and yelling that the whole thing is "racist from day one" would get you banned anywhere else.


Then I'm glad NOT being anywhere else.
I was only very intrigued and curious about the PRECISE elements that could trigger such a statement.

I'm still waiting for Namutna to present at least some of those elements, each preferrably accompanied with a clear explanation.

But I won't press more if this subject gets THAT bothering, for most persons, here.

Might as well let the discussion come back to #18 of the Final Quest.
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: racial perception in ElfQuest - split from issue #18 discussion
Bluetree

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Search in: All the Many Colors   Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: racial perception in ElfQuest - split from issue #18 discussion    Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTue Oct 18, 2016 4:01 pm
Ahem.

May I suggest that about 90% of this thread get snipped and moved to a different, IRL-related category, with a new title? (Perhaps something like "-Isms and The People Who Use Them"?) Because the last time I looked, the title of this thread is "Final Quest #18".

Yes, I'm a noob here and therefore am probably being seen as being impertinent instead of speaking my mind. Too bad. I could play several "-ism" cards and therefore be completely exonerated, but it looks like plenty of that has gone down already. I'm not adding to that steaming pile.

Discussions are great. Intelligent arguments are great. But time and place, yeah?
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Final Quest #18
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Final Quest #18    Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyThu Oct 13, 2016 2:52 pm
Thanks for sharing, LurkingCat! Very Happy

Must admit that the best thing of those early teaser-adds for me is ... to know that there will be an issue #18 - most probably! ^^
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Final Quest #18
LurkingCat

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Final Quest #18    Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyThu Oct 13, 2016 9:13 am
Spoilers  and cover art for issue #18 of Final Quest (January 25, 2017)  are out:
http://elfquest.com/cover-art-of-final-quest-18-is-released-2/

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Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: REFERENCE : MAGIC IN ELFQUEST
PCoquelin

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: REFERENCE : MAGIC IN ELFQUEST    Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTue Sep 08, 2015 10:41 am
Here, for reference, I shall gather and present the exact and distinct scenes of magic-use, up to 'The Discovery'.
I will show only the scenes drawn by Wendy, because her work should have precedence..
..and because they are necessarily 'canon'.


Original Quest - #1 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P01_Gliding_HighOne : Gliding (High One)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P02_Sending_WolfSend : Sending (Wolf Send)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P03_Sending_GroupSend : Sending (Group Send : call)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P04_Sending_GroupVisionSharing : Sending (Group Send : Sharing a vision

Original Quest - #2 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P05_Sending_IndividualCall : Sending (Individual call)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P06_Recognition : Recognition
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P07_HypnoticTranceonelf : Hypnotic trance (on elf)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P08_EmotionFeeling : Emotion feeling
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P09_Healing : Healing
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P10_LightControl : Light control

Original Quest - #3 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P11_ShapeChanging_OnObject_PossibleMindManipulation : Very probable shape-changing magic highly charged on object (the 'Great Sun' item behind Savah shows changing patterns) - possible mind manipulation
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P12_Levitation_OnObject : Levitation (on object)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P13_HypnoticTrance_OnAnimal : Hypnotic trance (on animal)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P14_Levitation_OnAnimal : Levitation (on animal)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P15_PossibleTruthTelling : Possible Truth-telling
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P16_Sending_MindProbe : Mind Probe
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_SelfLevitationThoughtLost : Information : self-levitation was thought to be a lost power, among the Sun Folk

Original Quest - #4 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P17_Sending_DarkSend : Sending (Dark Send)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P18_PossibleEmotionControl_OrEvenMore : Possible emotion control (or more)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_PoolOfStagnantMagic : Information : Magic can stagnate and turn into a monstruosity
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P19_MagicBornMonster_CombinationOfPowers : Magic monster (COMBINING powers)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P20_Sending_SpecialCall : Sending (Special, intense, intimate call)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P21_Sending_SpecialCall_ByMonster : Sending (Special call, by monster)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P22_ProbableWatchingOver : Probable Watching over (by a dead elf, over a living one)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P23_ResistanceToDarkSend : Resistance to Dark Send

Original Quest - #5 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P24_PlantGrowth : Plant Growth
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P24_SoulName : Soul Name
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P25_TelescopicVision : Telescopic Vision
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P26_MindControl_OnAnimal : Mind Control (on animal, pretended
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P26_MindControl_OnAnimal_Confirmed : Mind Control (on animal, confirmed)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P27_28_MindSearch_VisualProjection : Mind Search + Visual Projection + Voice Projection (probable - or a special form of Sending)

Original Quest - #6 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P29_GoingOut : 'Going Out'
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P30_31_PlantControl_MagicFeeling : Plant Control + Magic Feeling
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P32_Sending_LockSend_Challenge : Sending (Lock-Send - Challenge

Original Quest - #7 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P33_TreeShaping : Tree Shaping
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P34_Sending_FromElfToWolf : Sending (from elf to wolf)

Original Quest - #8 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P35_MagicFeeling_Faint : Magic Feeling (faint - familiar setting)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P35_MagicFeeling_Faint2 : Magic Feeling (confirmed - non familiar setting)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P36_MentalLink : Mental Link
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P37_MentaGuiding : Mental Guiding

Original Quest - #9 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P38_MagicFeeling_Confirmed : Magic Feeling (confirmed)

Original Quest - #10 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P39_PreserversCocoons : Magic of the preservers' cocoons
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P40_Sending_SpecialIntimateCall_Confirmed : Sending (Special, intimate, intense call - confirmed)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P41_Sending_CallingBackImages : Sending (Calling back images)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P42_PossiblePremonition : Possible premonition
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P43_LockedWarning : Locked warning
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P44_MagicallyCreatedSpecies : Preservers: a magically created species
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P45_Sending_DarkSendTorture : Sending (Dark Send - Torture)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P46_TreeShaping_LivingWoodIntoObject : Tree Shaping (living wood into an object)

Original Quest - #11 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P47_Sending_DarkSend_Stun : Sending (Dark Send - Stun)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P48_RockShaping_Dedicated_Door1 : Rock Shaping (dedicated - Door effect)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P49_Sending_DarkSend_PiercingBack : Sending (Dark Send - Piercing back)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P50_Sending_GroupCallToOne : Sending (Group call to one)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P51_AntiHealing : Anti-Healing
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P52_Sending_MultiTargetDarkSend_LeetahsRemark : Sending (Dark Send - multi-targetted) + Leetah's remark on anti-healing
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P53_Gliding_Gliders : Gliding (Blue Mountain's Gliders)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P54_Sending_DarkSendKill : Sending (Dark Send - Kill)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P55_Healing_ImprovisedShield : Healing (as an improvised Shield)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P56_ProbablePryingOnSendings : Probable Prying on Sendings

Original Quest - #12 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_LockedWarningIsVisual : Information : Locked Warning is mainly made of visual elements and feelings
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_Shaping_Healing_Same : Information : Shaping and Healing are basically the same type of magic
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P58_LethargicSemiDeadState_RockShaping_Dedicated : Semi-dead state Lethargy - used to enforce dedication of magic (here: VERY dedicated and limited Rock Shaping task)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P59_FleshShaping : Flesh Shaping
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P60_Sending_LockSend2 : Sending (Lock Send)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P61_Sending_IntenseForcingSend : Sending (Intense, focussed, forcing)

Original Quest - #13 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_GoingOutComesWithDeadlyRisks : Information : Going Out comes with deadly risks
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P62_EmotionFeelingOrMore : Emotion Feeling or more
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P63_Sending_DeepSending : Sending (Deep Sending)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P64_SoulNameAbuse : Soul Name abuse
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P65_ProbableHARDMetalShaping : Probable HARD metal Shaping
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_AncientTypesOfMagic : Information : Ancient types of magic
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P66_CombinedMagic_RockShaping_Levitation_Complex_Dedicated_MemoryEffect : Combined magic : Rock Shaping + Levitation (complex, dedicated, + History effect)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P67_SymbolicAndMemoryEffect : Information : Symbolic and memory effect, for the Egg
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P68_Semi-deadMagicalLethargyHelpedWithPotion : Information : Magical semi-dead Lethargy helped by a potion
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_HealingTellsMuchAboutGenetics : Information : Healing tells much about genetics
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P69_ResistanceToDarkSend : Resistance to Dark Send (killing version)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P70_CompleteSelfShaping_Plant_HighOne : Complete Self-Shaping (Plant - High One)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P71_CompleteSelfShaping_Animal_HighOne_INTER-BREEDING : Complete Self-Shaping (animal - High One) + Magically induced INTER-BREEDING
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P72_ProbableMindManipulation : Information : Probable Mind Manipulation

Original Quest - #14 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_RecognitionRevealsTheSoul : Information : Recognition reveals the soul
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P73_MindControl_Oblivion : Sending (Dark Send) - Mind Control (Oblivion)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P74_GoingOut_SpiritCapture : Going Out (Spirit Capture)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P75_SendingAndGoingOut_SpecialMindProbe : Sending and Going Out (Spirit Seeking)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P76_FleshShaping_OnAnimal : Flesh Shaping (on animal)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P77_TreeShaping_StrangleweedVinesIntoLivingTrap : Tree Shaping (turning strangleweed vines into a living trap)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P78_PlantControl : Plant Control
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P79_GoingOut_MindTouch : Going Out (Mind Touch)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P80_MentalHealing : Healing (Mental Healing)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P81_ProbableNearDeathAutoHealing : Probable Near-Death Auto Healing

Original Quest - #15 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P82_Sending_OpenSending_Vision : Open Sending (Sharing a vision)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P83_MagicAura_MagicVisualDetection : Magic Aura (Visual Detection of magic)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P84_SoulNameExchange : Exchange of Soul names

Original Quest - #16 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P85_WatchingOver_Confirmed : Watching Over (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P86_MagicFeeling : Magic Feeling
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P87_HypnoticTrance_OnTroll : Hypnotic Trance (on troll)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P88_Gliding_RoughVersion : Gliding (rough version)

Original Quest - #17 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P89_Gliding_AtDistance_SomeoneElse : Gliding (floating someone else at distance)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P90_CallOfThePalace_Confirmed : Call of the Palace (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P91_PossiblePremonition : Possible Premonition
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P92_SoulNameOffering : Soul Name offering
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P93_PreserverPremonition : Possible Premonition (preserver)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P94_Gliding_HeavyCharge : Gliding (heavy charge)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P95_ProbableHardMetalShaping : Possible Hard Metal Shaping ('fusing metal to stone')

Original Quest - #18 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P96_RockShaping_CombinedToShapePalacesStone : Rock Shaping (combined to shape the Palace's stone)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P97_StoneFeeling : Stone Feeling

Original Quest - #19 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P98_Sending_Link : Sending (Link)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P99_Gliding_ExtremeWeightLifting : Gliding (lifting extreme weight)

Original Quest - #20 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P100_ForcedRecognition : Forced Recognition
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P101_SpiritFeeling_HighOne : Spirit Feeling (High One)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_DeadSpirits : Information : Dead elf spirits choose or not where they go
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_Recognition_ThoseBornFromItAttractInterestedSpirits : Information : those born out of Recognition attract interested spirits
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P102_ExtremeLongevity_Preservers : Extreme Longevity (preservers)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P103_104_105_MindLinking_VisualEffects_CocoonsThinkDo : Mind Linking + Visual Effects + Preserver cocoon's Think-Do + support by the 'Scroll' item, heavily charged with magic
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_SourceAndNatureOfMagic : Information : Source and nature of magic
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P106_GoingOut_HighOnes : Going Out (High Ones)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_OriginOf_Palace_Trolls_Preservers : Information : Origin of the Palace, of trolls and of preservers
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P107_PreserversCocoons_ThinkDo : Preserver cocoon's Think-Do effect + 'out of time' effect
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P108_MentalLink_FromAfar : Mental Link (from afar)


Siege at Blue Mountain - #1 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P109_WinnowillCaseSeenAsEternalDanger : Possible Resistance to the Palace's call of dead spirits
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P110_PowerAbsorption_EggAsSupport : Power absorption (with the Egg as a support)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #2 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P111_SendingDetection_LongRange : Sending Detection (long range)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P112_SubmissionByUseOfSoulName : Mental Submission (by use of the Soul Name)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P113_MindProbeByMindTouch : Mind Probe (by the use of Mind Touch)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P114_GlidingWhileAsleep : Gliding (while asleep!)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #3 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P115_DarkSendWhileGoingOut : Dark Send while Going Out!

Siege at Blue Mountain - #4 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P116_MentalHealing_CalmingDown : Mental Healing (calming down)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_MagicAsleepInHumans : Information : magic is asleep in humans
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P117_GeneticChange : Genetic Change

Siege at Blue Mountain - #5 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P118_ConcentratingMagicIntoItem : Concentrating magic into an item
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P119_MagicFeeling_InHumans : Magic Feeling (in humans!)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P120_Gliding_ProbablyEvenInCocoons : Gliding (very probably even inside cocoons!)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P121_GeneticChange_Confirmed_WithLimits : Genetic Change (confirmed - with limits)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P122_RockShapingAndFloating_HugeMagicFocussing : Power Concentration (huge rock-shaping + floating)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P123_Sending_GatheredPowerToDemonstrateDarkSend : Gathering Power (Sending - demonstrating Dark Send)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #6 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P124_Sending_Limitation_Cocoons : Sending (gliders - strange limitation - preservers' cocoons)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P125_SendingAnalysis_Emotions : Sending Analysis (emotions)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_ControlLinkedWithNeed : Possible information on magic - Control may be linked with need
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P126_SameSoulForTwoBodies_TrickOrReality : Same Soul for two bodies (possible reality / probable Mind Control trick)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P127_TreeShaping_AntiFireEffect : Tree Shaping - Anti-fire effect (+ effect of love on magic)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #7 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P128_MindControlTrick_MoreProbable : Mind Control trick (more probable)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P129_EggAsAMemoryHolder_Confirmed : Egg as a memory holder (like the Scroll of colors - confirmed)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P130_EffectOfWillOnGroupMagic_Focus : Effect of will on group magic (focus)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P131_MentalHealing_EmotionsAndNeed : Mental Healing (emotions and need)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P132_WhatGroupMagicCanAccomplish : What group magic can accomplish
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P133_EggMeantToAbsorbThePalaceAndSpirits_POWER_HUNGER : Egg meant to ABSORB the Palace, the elf spirits inside it, and their power
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P134_SpaceAndTimeTravel_GroupMagic : Space and time travel (group magic)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #8 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P135_MindControlTrick_Confirmed : Mind Control trick (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P136_GroupMagicVersusOne : Group magic versus one (+ interesting remark: 'they KNOW her')
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P137_TruthInSending : Truth in Sending (Wolfrider savagery)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P138_MentalHealing_WakingPowersUp : Mental Healing (waking powers up)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P139_Healing_BOTHElfAndHumanAtTheSameTime : Healing (BOTH human and elf, at the same time!)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P140_InterestingAfterEffect : Information : interesting after-effect
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P141_SpiritHosting : Spirit Hosting
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P142_TheOnlyDifferenceIsLove_ProbableKeyForMagic : The only difference is love (probable key for magic)


Kings of the Broken Wheel - #1 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P143_StrangeGeneticEffects : Magic causes strange genetic effects
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P144_MentalHealing_MagicFeeling_ByPreservers : Magic Feeling (by preservers)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P145_FireMagic_HeatingWave_GroupMagic : Fire Magic (Heat Wave - Group magic - by GLIDERS!)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P146_Floating_StoppingHugeBolt_ExtremeStrength_GroupMagic : Floating (used for stopping the huge bolt) + EXTREME STRENGTH (manipulating that heavy bolt) (Group magic)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P147_FireMagic_Bolts_GroupMagic : Fire magic (Bolts - group magic - gliders or linked to Rayek)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P148_Shield_GroupMagic : Shield (group magic)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P149_MentalLinkPlusSpecificEventTriggersMore : Mental Link + specific event near the Palace = triggering of a special effect

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #2 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P150_FireMagicMorePowerfulInTimmain : Information : Timmain has more powerful fire magic than group
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P151_FireMagic_HUGEEnergyBolts_GroupMagic : Fire Magic (HUGE energy bolts - causing a huge chasm - group magic
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P152_FreeingSpiritsToThePalaceRestoredIt_GroupMagic : Freeing the dead gliders' spirits restores the Palace

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #3 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P153_ShapeChanging_InsidePreserverCocoon_TearingItApart : Shape Changing (High One - inside a preserver cocoon - confirmed as incredible feat)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P154_Sending_FromFarAwayAndIntense : Sending (from far away and intensely so)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P155_Flying_PalacePower : Flying (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P156_ReintegratingEvenAnUnwillingHighOne_PalacePower : Reintegrating even an unwilling High One (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P157_ExtremeVelocityTravel_PalacePower : Extreme Velocity Travel (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P158_EmotionTransfer_SpiritMagic : Emotion Transfer (Spirits power)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P159_EmotionTransferConfirmed_SpiritMagic_KureelBarelyRemembered : Emotion Transfer (confirmed + Interesting remark: dead elves barely remember, even recent and extreme events, like murder!

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #4 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P160_WakingUpPowers_PalaceMagic : Waking powers up (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P161_MagicVision_PalaceMagic : Magic Vision (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P162_MindControl_ForcedSleep : Mind Control (forced sleep)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P163_Healing_AnotherUseOfMagic_sigh : Healing (another use of magic.. *sigh*)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P164_RockShaping_PalaceNotSoDifficultNow : Rock Shaping (..the Palace - not so difficult, now!)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P165_SendingTheCryOut_InsideThePalace : Sending the Cry out (inside the Palace)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P166_RockShaping_Palace_SeparatingAPieceOfThePalace : Rock Shaping (..the Palace - SEPARATING a piece of it!)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P167_DisguisingThePalace : Disguising the Palace (interesting 'A PART of the new land' call..)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #5 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P168_MindTransfer : Mind Transfer
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P169_MentalHealing_ShuttingMentalDoor : Mental Healing (Shutting mental door)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P170_Shield_PalaceInducedPower : Shield (Palace-induced power)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P171_PalaceInducedEffects : Palace-induced effects
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P172_WaterControl_OneSoulSharedHypothesisConfirmed : Water Control (Winnowill - so soon after her exile on that island!)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #6 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P173_MagicFeeling_Extreme_HearingCryBeyondTime : Magic Feeling (Extreme: Hearing a mental cry from beyond time!)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P174_LightControl_VisualEffects_Scroll : Light Control (visual effects - Scroll magic)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P175_LinkWithLittlePalace : Link with the little Palace
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P176_MindLinkingFromAfar_WaterBreathing_SoSoonAfterHerExile : Mind Link (from afar) + Water Breathing (so soon after her exile on that island!)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P177_TimeJump_PalacePower : Time Jump (Palace power)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #7 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P178_MentalCall_Extreme : Mental Call (Extreme)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P179_MentalShield : Mental Shield
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P180_LockSending_FacilitatingBirth : Lock Sending (facilitating birth - without a healer)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P181_MentalShield_ConfirmedAndDevelopped : Mental Shield (confirmed and developped)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #8 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P182_RockShaping_DeterminingAMountainsAging : Rock Shaping (Determining a mountain's aging)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P183_AntiHealing_DrivenByHatred : Anti-Healing (driven by hatred)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P184_Healing_LeprosisLikeTerminalDiseaseInHuman : Healing (a human - leprosis-like terminal disease)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P185_AntiHealing_Controlled : Anti-healing (controlled)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P186_GeneticChange_RemovingTheWolfBlood : Genetic Change (removing the wolf blood from a wolfrider)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P187_EscapingMindLinkAndSendings : Escaping Mind Link and Sending

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #9 :
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P188_WaterSurge : Water Surge
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P189_WaterSwirl : Water Swirl
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P190_WaterRam : Water Ram
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P191_MentalShield_EvolvedIntoMentalBarriersAndMentalSubmission : Mental Shield (Evolved into Mental Barriers and Mental Submission)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P192_Healing_AtDistance_PowerOfLove : Healing (at distance - power of love + Palace)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P193_TimeJump_BackInTime_PalacePower : Time Jump (back in time - Palace power)

Hidden Years #1:
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P194_Premonition_NotEvenWatching : Premonition (not even watching the target!)

Hidden Years #2:
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P195_FireMagic_CreatingFlames : Fire magic (Creating flames)

Hidden Years #4:
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P196_RockShaping_Bridge_PalacePower : Rock Shaping (Bridge - Palace power)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P197_DetectingHumans_PalacePower : Detecting humans around (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P198_WinnowillEntrapped_HypnoticTranceAndPalacePower : Winnowill in hypnotic trance and entrapped within the Palace's walls
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P200_FragmentsOfThePalace_Lost : Fragments of the Palace (lost..)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P199_Healing_CombinedPowersAndPalace : Healing (at distance - many at once - combined powers + Palace effect)

Hidden Years #5:
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P201_Recognition_MentalLink : Recognition (Mental Link effect)

Hidden Years #9½:
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P202_WinnowilShakenOutOfHerTranceByCuttersDeepHatredSending : Winnowill shaken out of her trance by Cutter's hating send
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P203_SendingAsTheVeryAdequatePunishment : Sending.. as the most adequate punishment ever!


Shards #16:
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P204_SoulEntrapment : Soul Entrapment
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P205_WatchingOver_VisuallyConfirmed : Watching Over (visually confirmed)


The Searcher and the Sword:
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P206_HumanSending : Sending (Complete Imagery, BY HUMAN)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P207_PreserverCocoon_ToLearnFromThePalace : Preserver cocoon magic (to LEARN from the Palace)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P208_DeadElfSpiritCalling : Deal elf spirit Calling (confirmed)


The Discovery:
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P209_MagicChanneling_confirmed : Magic Channelling (confirmed) + Learning in preserver cocoon (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P210_MagicShaping_PalacePower : Magic Shaping (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P211_GoingOutWhileCocoonedAndProjectingAMentalImage : Going Out while cocooned and projecting a mental image from afar!
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P212_NoHidingEmotions : Information: no hiding emotions while in this..
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P213_AstralFlight_CalledByLove : Astral Flight (called by love)
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P214_WaterSurge : Water Surge
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P215_HugeSpiralingWaterSurge : HUGE spiraling Water Surge!
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt P216_WaterRope : Water Rope
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_UsButNotUs_AGAIN : 'Us but not us..' - reminds of Cutter's remarks.. WHAT KIND OF ELF IS WINNOWILL, ACTUALLY!?..
Topics tagged under 18 on Father Tree Holt INFO_InThousandsOfYears : 'In THOUSANDS of years' !!
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