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PostSubject: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:39 am

So... Sunday night I'm watching the season finale of Game of Thrones.  Mind you, I'm not a die hard follower, but I catch it as often as I can (mainly for the kick ass dragon scenes)

But then a scene comes along that just boiled my britches...

The plot is split up in countless multiple stories that are too head spinning to follow (like I said, only the awesome dragon scenes are worth paying attention to Razz )),  but!! one in particular is about this kid... who's on what I like to call a "vision quest"



He has some ability to slip his consciousness into a wolf... just reminds you ALOT of Suntop "going out", and the coincidence that he travels with....
((waves at Timmain on screen!!!))



So they finally reach their destination....



Can you say "Father Tree", boys and girls!?

Then this cute little thing comes along....




They're called Children of the Forest (wow... how original, Mr. Martin!!)

Four fingered, no bigger than a human child, connection to nature,  powerful magic, etc...
http://comicbook.com/blog/2014/06/13/game-of-thrones-who-are-the-children-of-the-forest-/

That was the only image I could find of the "child of the forest" from the scene, but I shyt you not, she looked just like Dewshine, but with brown hair, and she was shooting out magic canons from her hands like Rayek

To me, the coincidence is just WAY too much to be chance.... The books were published in 1996, and even if it took this guy 10 years to write them, I strongly suspect he saw Elfquest somewhere and snagged Wendy's version of the elves and slipped them into his story  Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostSubject: *Gasp* Ohhhh...yessss...   Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:32 pm

Shocked Shocked Shocked 

Someone crank up the conspiracy machine!!

This sounds too 'coincidental' to be just an...accident!

 Evil or Very Mad 

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:50 am

I LOVE GoT. I am sure he has drawn inspiration from a lot of different fantasy books and movies. I can see the Timmain and Bran being like Suntop but I don't really see the forest girl as looking like Dewshine.
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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:05 am

The thing is... Elfquest isn't that original. It's not like Wendy Pini was the first person to come up with the idea of little people living in the woods- or inhabiting trees. She didn't come up with the idea of a magic mountain home for otherworldly beings. She didn't come up with mermaids. She didn't come up with werewolves. She didn't come up with shapeshifters or coneheaded aliens, or any of that. She didn't even come up with the idea of a magic-using people who align themselves with wolves or birds. she didn't invent tree people. That all existed long before Elfquest- and if she and another author drew from the same source, it's not surprising.

What Wendy Pini did that was clever was to reconceive and retextuaize all these common myths- and explain them in the context of her story. She very cleverly defined all these things as a human misunderstanding of aliens. That's super smart. It gives a plausible explanation for every standard mythical beings- without resort to simply "magic." The magic only exists as a poorly understood power that the aliens have.

It's sort of like what Xmen did for Superheroes. Thanks to Xmen, every Superhero can now be explained as a genetic anomaly... the next step in human evolution. (Instead of just some magic guy in tights. Seriously- Superman as an alien made sense in the world of Superman... but once he started interacting with other superheroes who weren't from Kryton? It was like- how many of them can there be? Well, according to xmen, a lot because they are mutants.)

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:58 pm

Got to agree with Lunakat here, I often see people claiming things to be inspired by Elfquest, but I don't think they actually is, most fantasy themes has been used before, and people get inspired by eachother, and most things has been used before, and been around for centuries. But that's ok Smile And it's just fun when authors get inspired by things, but makes it unique, more theirs.

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:09 pm

@Blackbird wrote:
And it's just fun when authors get inspired by things, but makes it unique, more theirs.
Right! Smile

And it's fan habit to recognize conections with their favorite story, favorite character, favorite fandom ... You see and recognize what you are most familiar with. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:22 pm

Yeah, but it's important to try to make it unique, not just copy...*coughEragonCough*

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:27 pm

I didn't like the first episodes of Game of Thrones (the over-use of sex scenes and brutality) ...



...but I must concede it became more and more and even more interesting, with time.

And, at this pace, even if winter is coming, we'll see elves there...


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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:53 pm

I kinda like whats seperates GOT from many other shows, no one is safe, nothing is predictable, and as for the sex, yes...so much nudity, but it is almost better than all the hypocrite tv shows were everyone waits with sex till they are married and such Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:25 pm

I agree with you, Blackbird. It's the exact reason why I eventually paid attention to the "Spartacus" series...



...even if it was worse, at its beginnings, than Game of Thrones.



Moreso that I realised it was in fact very close to the little of what is actually known or guessed about related historic facts.

Fact is... history was even worse.

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:13 am

Sun Girl and I once tried the thought experiment of "What if George R. R. Martin wrote ElfQuest?"

- spoiler: everyone dies.

further spoilers: The elves never make peaceful contact when they can invade with maximum historically accurate rape and bloodshed. Winnowill as WaRP wrote her is actually something of a moderate. The Hawks are the dragons. The Palace is the Iron Throne. Did I say everyone dies? Yeah, everyone dies. Except Suntop. But he's dead inside. It sucks to be a Stark - I mean Wolfrider.
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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:53 pm

In George Martins version Vaya was pregnant with Pikes child, makes it a little more horrible. One-eye did wake up after Leetah healed him, but killed by a troll before Clearbrook got back from the war, Leetah also got raped. That was only that issue.



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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:06 pm

Now I know GoT is not for me.

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:10 pm

I just would never dare insult WaRP by comparing their work to Martin's.



Knock me off the branch all you want, GoT fans...



...I don't care.

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:49 pm

Two very different works, love them both, for different reasons ^^

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:29 pm

I love Game of Thrones because it's so unpredictable Razz You never know who lives or dies - everyone can die at any moment, and many already have. And while you may think that killing off many main characters makes the story dull, in this case the opposite is true as new characters rise to shine (and die, eventually, if they're in bad luck). And apart from the magic, the political and historical context is very realistic.

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:19 pm

Wasn't comparing, per say...

Just saw a lot of familiarity that made me feel as if GoT was "borrowing" from EQ Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:44 am

We're just in it for the dragons...

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:39 am

Wow, awesome Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:24 pm

Gorgeous "crossover", Kojiyumi!

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:21 am

My thought on Game of Thrones is they're all busy hurrying up destroying each other and spreading chaos before winter comes and calms them all for good.



Trouble is...



...it will also kill them all.

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:24 pm

...Except Cersei who will outlive them all.... Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:54 pm

I'm surprised no one posted this yet:

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:27 pm

I love imagining very grim turns, after watching each episode...



For instance, after the last one...



...I imagined the white walkers plunging their hands into the water and freezing the sea.
End of Jon Snow and co.

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PostSubject: Re: Game of Thrones-ElfQuest?   Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:42 am

I just love being proven wrong.

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