The Final Quest

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kathleen3.0 wrote:: Oh my god, they went further back in time than even they knew, the world of two moons is the high ones original home!

That's a theory that's definitely been bandied about. At this point, I'm having trouble coming up with something that hasn't already been brought up. I'm really interested to see if there will be something that wasn't considered.

I think it will be something related to the true nature of the first-comers, and something that has been hidden from our heroes from the start. So, I think we will find out that the tree elves have 1) been around forever and 2) been aware of, and maybe watching, the wolfriders and other groups from the start. And they probably know some information that our elves won't want to hear.

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Maybe the tree elves are a different group of High Ones? Ones who were led away long ago by God because the rest had gone sinful and decadent?

Or none of this has really happened, it's all a fever dream and Cutter is still in Nona's hut?

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manga wrote:: Or none of this has really happened, it's all a fever dream and Cutter is still in Nona's hut?

NOOOOOOOOO! !!! affraid

Or...they all are just in wrapstuff hurtling through space, their thoughts guided by the unfeeling palace. It will end with them landing on Abode, the whole story just a dream in the mind of Timmain.

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Subject: Re: The Final Quest Wed May 13, 2015 11:02 pm

If it's all a dream, I may flip.

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manga wrote:: Or none of this has really happened, it's all a fever dream and Cutter is still in Nona's hut?

YES!! YES!! YES!!

*falls over laughing* you wicked, wicked woman! Razz

That's just perfect....

*hears "Dallas" theme music playing* Please tell me I'm not the only one who's old enough to remember the "Pam's dream" season

That, and I wanna video Multi-Facets flip and post it on Youtube Pike Rolling

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Subject: Re: The Final Quest Thu May 14, 2015 1:50 am

manga wrote:: Or none of this has really happened, it's all a fever dream and Cutter is still in Nona's hut?

Haha, this reminds me of an old fanfic - Blood of Ten Chefs. Anyone remember that?

Subject: Re: The Final Quest Thu May 14, 2015 1:53 am

Kindredsoul wrote:

manga wrote:: Or none of this has really happened, it's all a fever dream and Cutter is still in Nona's hut?

YES!! YES!! YES!!

*falls over laughing* you wicked, wicked woman! Razz

That's just perfect....

*hears "Dallas" theme music playing* Please tell me I'm not the only one who's old enough to remember the "Pam's dream" season

That, and I wanna video Multi-Facets flip and post it on Youtube Pike Rolling

Oh yes, when they nixed a whole season of Dallas just to bring Bobby back! That was hilarious.
If the whole of EQ turns out to be a dream, I think I'll die laughing!

Subject: Re: The Final Quest Thu May 14, 2015 6:03 am

manga wrote:: Or none of this has really happened, it's all a fever dream and Cutter is still in Nona's hut?

The ultimate plot twist!

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You gotta admit he recovered awfully fast. I don't know of any medicines that work on an infection like those whistling leaves did.

Subject: Re: The Final Quest Thu May 14, 2015 12:24 pm

And that would explain, for Manga, how and why Cutter is the center of the Elfquest universe, while Rayek gets kicked to the side. Alas. it's gonna be really devastating for him when he wakes up.

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Outlier wrote:

kathleen3.0 wrote:: Oh my god, they went further back in time than even they knew, the world of two moons is the high ones original home!

That's a theory that's definitely been bandied about. At this point, I'm having trouble coming up with something that hasn't already been brought up. I'm really interested to see if there will be something that wasn't considered.

It was extremely tongue in cheek, I assure you.

Subject: Re: The Final Quest Thu May 14, 2015 10:31 pm

Kindredsoul wrote:: That, and I wanna video Multi-Facets flip and post it on Youtube

XD It wouldn't be worth filming. I'd probably just throw the comic across the room and storm off cursing.

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It probably just means the dichotomy between "the way" and belonging to the stars. There is so much talk about how the palace is going to destroy the way of life of the wolfriders:
Quite a lot of pages are devoted for the sulking, former keeper of the way Moonshade, Ember picked up the "the palace is a threat"-line, Angrif is going to wage war on the Wavedancers and thereby, probably, triggering their willingness to leave the planet...

BTW, wasn't there a rule to be broken with each issue?

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Guys, guys!

I think I have it! The secret long hidden in plain sight that will devastate and re-define elf-hood!

The wolves have elf blood! Will they hear the Palace call too? And what will the Palace's influence - which has already "uplifted" the trolls and preservers and is shape-changing the elves who live within it - do to them?

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ooohhhh....good possibility manga!! this is indeed true, the wolves DO carry a drop of elf blood in them. so would they have to go as well?

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You know, this might even explain Star Child... first she was a blanket, representing something familiar and comfortable. Then she was an elf whose demeanor suggested great age and wisdom but also innocence. And the cover image shows shape-change sparkles around her. She has just been changed from wolf to elf! Maybe she's like Timmain in that she's been a wolf all along (and maybe even one of their wolfpack!) and the Wolfriders, who appear to have gold-fish like inability to retain information, just never noticed. But she's been dreaming of elfhood and the stars since she was a cub. Of course she and Skywise, the Wolfrider who dreamed of the stars and immortality, would be delighted to discover each other. They'd be kindred spirits in so many ways!

Subject: Re: The Final Quest Fri May 15, 2015 10:28 am

That...is freaking brilliant, Manga. If that's not what happens, it should be!

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Richard wrote a "BOTC" story about a wolf who had enough elf in him to WANT to be an elf but couldn't manage it.

And Wendy has said that she regrets having Nightrunner "speak" to Cutter in the first book, when he warns him about the humans.

She has changed it in the new versions. It used to have Nightrunner send "Humans! They bring fire!" but now it's just "Humans! Fire! FIRE!"

Because it gives the game away, perhaps?

Subject: Re: The Final Quest Fri May 15, 2015 11:06 am

manga wrote:: Richard wrote a "BOTC" story about a wolf who had enough elf in him to WANT to be an elf but couldn't manage it.

And Wendy has said that she regrets having Nightrunner "speak" to Cutter in the first book, when he warns him about the humans.

She has changed it in the new versions. It used to have Nightrunner send "Humans! They bring fire!" but now it's just "Humans! Fire! FIRE!"

Because it gives the game away, perhaps?

Yeah, either that, or if the wolves could send words, why not more often?

But your theory is very good actually! Been twisting my head over Skywises dream so long, and what the wolf mean, if not Timmain.

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Subject: Re: The Final Quest Fri May 15, 2015 11:24 am

Except that, in the dream, she changes from a star to a blanket to an elf to a wolf... and not just any wolf- it's Starjumper.

So... I think that could really go either way.

I like Manga's theory. I think it's common knowledge, isn't it, that the wolves have elf blood? That's why they can send?

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Subject: Re: The Final Quest Fri May 15, 2015 11:44 am

Sorry for changing the topic a bit:

Something that's been... bugging (for lack of better words) me for a while is the way the Go-Backs refer to Venka.
First in issue 7 she points out to Windkin that she's chieftess now.
Then in issue 8 someone calls her 'chieftess' twice.
And finally in the issue 9 preview someone refers to her by that title again.
Contrary I can't remember Cutter or Ember being referred to as chief/chieftess so often.

Sure, it could simply be a cultural difference between the Wolfriders and the Go-Backs (maybe also them being glad they actually have a chieftess in the first place) but it kinda comes across - at least to me - as if they're going
Venka is the chieftess, remember?
She's chieftess.
Chieftess.
Venka = Chieftess of the Go-Backs.

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Subject: Re: The Final Quest Fri May 15, 2015 11:57 am

Maybe it's because the wolfriders are more "family-ish"? Like, when the boss tells you to call him by his first name.

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Subject: Re: The Final Quest Fri May 15, 2015 12:06 pm

Could be. I also noticed that Zey was referred to as "chief Zey" in HY 2, but that's probably to make readers have the Who the fuck is this guy and why is he chief? reaction.
One more thing; Venka is essentially a stranger to them, they've known her for what? 40-50 years.

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Regarding Chieftess Venka:

Could also be that they're kinda more military like and are more prone to referring to someone's rank, if they have it.

Or they're so uncontrollably rowdy that they've got to keep reminding themselves and each other who the boss is. Wink

Regarding Star Child/Starjumper:

We've had hints about reincarnation. So maybe Star Child WAS Starjumper? Not so sure that fits so well. Maybe her transformation into Starjumper just represents their new bond. Starjumper is the only wolfriend Skywise has ever had, so it makes sense he would represent that kind of bond in a dream.

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Wolfriders have always been more a family than a tribe, whereas Go Backs have always been warriors. In fact, although they seem rough and rowdy, perhaps their tendency to put nicknames to people is a way of giving them titles.

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