Posts : 816 Join date : 2015-03-01 Location : In a cavern, in a canyon, excavating for a mine
Subject: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Positive and personal thoughts Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:48 am
I noticed a delightful new thread about having fun during lockdown. I'd like to open a general thread on this topic, to include personal experiences and insights. Please feel free to discuss grief and loss, and to share links to helpful resources or encouraging messages.
I'd really like to avoid politics. Even if I didn't vote for my federal, state and local leaders, I listen to what they have to say, do my own research, and then work with the decisions they have handed down.
I am still employed and likely will be for the duration. My job puts me in personal contact with thousands of people every week. My husband is high risk. If I show the slightest sign of infection, I will call in sick, remove myself to a separate part of the household, and remain there unless I get sick enough to call 911.
Posts : 816 Join date : 2015-03-01 Location : In a cavern, in a canyon, excavating for a mine
Subject: Re: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Positive and personal thoughts Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:10 am
Younger packmates may not remember September 11, the Gulf War, Vietnam, the Cold War, shortages during the 1970s, the emergence of several new diseases, and periods of rioting. I'm sixty and have seen many bad times. My parents saw much worse. , We got through these times by keeping informed, by being positive, and by adjusting to circumstances. I meet people at work who want me to turn back the clock and offer them life as it was before. These people have a victim mentality that will not serve them well.
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Subject: Re: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Positive and personal thoughts Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:59 am
Personally, I think it's cool to see how so many people are raising to the occasion, and doing whatever they can. Just a few examples (quite a few of these are from the cycling world…):
1. At least two cycling clothes manufacturing companies have switched to making facial masks. 2. A pro cyclist is using the time without racing to work in a hospital, she's an actual doctor. (There are also team doctors doing the same) 3. Another pro cyclist has found a way to 3D print equipment, he's an engineer, and a bit of a nerd. 4. Destilleries(sp?) have changed their production to hand sanitizers. 5. A bunch of tattooing artists donated their masks and hand sanitizers to a regional hospital. 6. Take Away places give food to health workers for free.
And much, much more.
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Subject: Re: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Positive and personal thoughts Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:23 pm
You mentioned 9/11, and i've been thinking about how corona virus is, like 9/11, one of those shared experiences that becomes a cultural touchstone.
I've been thinking about it because, during the aftermath of 9/11, I had just been diagnosed with cancer and found out my unborn baby had a life-threatening medical condition. So while everyone else was worrying about security and international relations, I was kind of removed, going through a more personal crisis.
Now, I am caring for my terminally ill husband. I had been working and debating when I should start my leave to see him through the end of life, and the decision was made for me by the virus. As soon as we had a positive case in our state, with all our underlying conditions I decided that was it. We were withdrawing. And I think it was just at the right time.
I am kind of grateful that it has given us time together as a family so we can experience this time without social demands that we go anywhere or do anything. It would have been nice to have some last visits to some of my husband's favorite places, but it's also a relief to have a reason to not put that pressure on ourselves.
Posts : 384 Join date : 2020-01-29 Age : 39 Location : Los Angeles
Subject: Re: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Positive and personal thoughts Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:27 pm
Waking up on 9/11 was a one time shock to the collective consciousness.
The sustained ARGH this time has left me with only one analogy, as you have seen.
I was actually succeeding in bearing the input through meditation until boredom led to my downfall. Going to do that again here in a few seconds.
Meanwhile, thanks to dreamberries, we now have a song parody that fits. And instead of a video of Gavin Rossdales personal kung fu movie, insert one of the Chinese doctors working to kill the stupid thing.
I want you to remember Theres a virus out there that is going all ways I want you to surrender And try, to stay at home today And I want you to remain At least 6 to 10 feet away And it means we cannot date I know that's a pisser baby
The epidemic between us Coronavirus between us Right in this lab Society’s displaced There is no lonelier place Than right in this lab
I want you to remember Everything is real This is not a hoax Like a virus, well, in the air
The epidemic between us Coronavirus between us Right in this lab Society’s displaced There is no lonelier place Than right in this lab Coronavirus between us Coronavirus between us Right in this lab
We’re doctors in Wuhan We're working in the lab We never meant you harm Never meant you wrong Wed just like to cure This deadly virus, virus, virus
Coronavirus between us The army of diseases Right in this lab Society’s displaced There is no lonelier place Than right in this lab Coronavirus between us Coronavirus between us (Sars-Cov-2!) Coronavirus is lethal
Posts : 224 Join date : 2016-03-26 Age : 45
Subject: Re: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Positive and personal thoughts Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:02 pm
My late mother gave me some sage advice during one of the worst periods of my life that I've never forgotten:
"Son, there's always a piece of gold even in the biggest pile of shit".
As much as the danger of COVID-19 and what it is doing to our society frightens me, I am doing my best to stay positive and remember my mother's wisdom. Both of my parents passed away when I was in my 20s and dealing with those losses changed the way I look at the world. There are times I do get frustrated at how entitled and selfish people tend to be these days, and on one hand all this toilet paper and food hording we've seen lately bears this out.
But I've also seen many people transcend this fear and rise above it. The few times I've ventured out for food and supplies I've had some memorable conversations with complete strangers. People who are struggling and scared but have taken to heart that our species needs each other to survive. I do hope that this tragedy will inspire a lot of people to treat others with more kindness. I've seen it already and it inspires me in turn to remember not to forget.
For me personally, I'm very grateful to have my lifemate sharing these times with me. I had spent the majority of my life single and had pretty much given up that I've ever meet someone that would to share this journey with me. It took me the better part of a decade to get my life in a better place after poverty, health issues and being homeless for a time left me a shell of my former self. But if a guy who had screwed up his life could not only get his act together but also find love then this gives me hope that this too, shall pass.
As I mentioned in another thread my lifemate had some health issues a while back that prevented her from driving for almost 6 months. She's just about ready to get behind the wheel again but now our state is on lockdown so no road trips for a while. She has been a trooper and I know she's missed her freedom terribly. We've been cooped up together for weeks and so far haven't had any problems getting along and in my book, that's a very good thing.
I also hope that we may hear from some of our long lost brothers and sisters from the old forum. I do wonder how they are all doing.
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Subject: Re: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Positive and personal thoughts Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:53 pm
To put it blandly, I managed to buy some stuff that's been sold out for weeks, ordinary items like tinned sardines or the only deodorant I'm not allergic to. Still no TP though. According to my Welsh buddy anything tinned is sold out. The French stock up on wine, US-Americans on guns, both Japanese and Germans on butt wipes.
Subject: Re: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Positive and personal thoughts Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:24 am
The butt-wipe mania is strong in the US, too. It affects the average American much more than thoughts of guns and ammo (the ones who went out to buy guns are the same ones who stock up on ammo every time there's an election, or a stock market dive, or the wind blows the wrong way.)
I had done our usual stocking up on toilet paper right before corona virus hit, so I didn't even think about going to the store when they started cautioning social distancing. But once we saw all the news stories about the runs on the stores, my husband took our month's worth of supply out of storage, distributed between our bathrooms, and spent the next few days keeping me updated as to how many rolls we had and asking when I was going to go to the store.
I think as he realized our inventory was not changing drastically and the mere existence of COVID-19 did not lead to a sudden disappearance of paper products, he relaxed a little.
To be fair, he is on a shit-ton of painkillers, so his grasp on reality is a little weak sometimes. I have no idea what was going on with the people buying out pallets at the warehouse stores.
I still get the macabre image sometimes of someone going after the quarantines are over to sort out someone who died of the virus's home and wondering, bewildered, what to do with the hundreds of rolls of toilet paper they find.
Now, I am caring for my terminally ill husband. I had been working and debating when I should start my leave to see him through the end of life, and the decision was made for me by the virus.... It would have been nice to have some last visits to some of my husband's favorite places, but it's also a relief to have a reason to not put that pressure on ourselves.
Thank you for sharing, Outlier. I cannot imagine how difficult this time must be for you, especially having to take care of your husband's hospice needs under these circumstances.
The French stock up on wine, US-Americans on guns, both Japanese and Germans on butt wipes.
What an insight into nations' souls!
Paper products were stripped. Yet people left pet food, cat litter and diapers mostly untouched.
One of the first things I made sure I ordered was pet food and cat litter. But then it all hit right around the time of my monthly restock orders anyway, so I just double ordered. I can deal with having no TP or human food. No cat litter is unacceptable.
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Subject: Re: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Positive and personal thoughts Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:25 pm
Arizona has finally decided to go stay-at-home, which is good because, while it doesn't affect me at work, maybe it will do things like get people out of the parks. Today I saw a group of at least ten or fifteen in the dog park sitting in a circle nearly shoulder to shoulder.
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Subject: Re: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Positive and personal thoughts Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:44 pm
So sorry to hear about your Dad's friend, Nibblet. Double sad for family and friends to deal with the loss all alone. My condolences and best bishes for strenght and mutual support.
I was late with stocking up. Just an emergency reserve - my demands are still met by supermarkets/discounters and to-go-meals. First thing I've made sure to have on stock: cat food! As an outdoor cat Ginchan does not need much cat litter. Happened to have a full bag in reseve anyway.
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