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Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Waiting for Christmas
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Waiting for Christmas    Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyFri Dec 14, 2018 9:34 pm
Just another nameless spirit, G0lden - a pretty face I wanted to have in a delicate bauble. And a nameless Preserver ... cannot even link to it, because this bug is only on the Preserver centerfold.

Not Innekah ... yet, just a nameless spirit beauty, Redhead. Ember


Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt 2013_l10 fairiegirl's choice

I was delighted when she choose a Preserver (from BotC #20) - this year they were under-represented!
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Final Quest #23
ErinC1978

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Final Quest #23    Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptySat Dec 30, 2017 5:04 pm
Speaking of lack of continuity -- regarding the spider warrior who's helping the war-men. Didn't they shoot that guy in the shoulder back in #20? And he's still helping them? I'd think it could be a kinsman, but he has a gap in his teeth in the exact same spot. I know hatred is powerful, but...
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: The EQ Alternaverse ((PART 2))
wingthing

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: The EQ Alternaverse ((PART 2))    Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTue Aug 29, 2017 11:56 pm
Wow, awesome, Vaeri!

So your possible visions of the Multitude have caught Rayek's eye, and I kinda had to write this.

Rayek watched the image materialize in the Scroll of Colors. Even since he had read that half-baked excuse for fanservice called Final Quest #20, he had been tormented by the same question – was the Recognition that produced Gypsy Moth the counterpart to this latest unholy unit of Man-Swift and Leetah, or would a THIRD Recognition soon strike the Palacemaster and his mate?

One possible future took shape… a son, on the cusp of maturing… with wild brown hair and skin almost as fair as his mother… a mountain lion’s eyes… and canines sharp as any Evertree Wolfrider, bared in a feral grin. He brandished a whip in one hand as he clambered onto the back of his enormous wolf. Rider and mount let out a combined howl that echoed through the forest.

Rayek dismissed the vision, and immediately hailed Melati on faraway Homestead.

“So… tell me about this Recognition-control pill you’re working on.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Again, the swirls of colors resolved into another possible future – another thread in the Multitude. Rayek watched as his youngest son took aim with his bow and arrow. He had the smile of the long-departed Joyleaf… and her gentle ways besides, Rayek could tell. And he possessed a languorous, sylph-like beauty, as he slowly moved through the forest in search of his fired arrow. As Sunstream was a child of the stars, so this lad was a child of the forest… the embodiment of every human legend about the hauntingly beautiful Hidden Folk... impossible to resist…

“Oh drukk,” Rayek muttered. “Swift!” he hollered down the corridors of the Palace. “Sust is NOT allowed in the Great Holt ever again!”

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Red hair. Gold eyes. Golden paint around his eyes… Rayek ran that particular thread in the Multitude forward and backward, regressing the boy to an infant in Swift’s arms, then returning him to maturity, as he lounged in a tree branch in his brightly colored leathers.

“Swift… are you SURE there isn’t something you want to tell me?”

“Red hair is a recessive gene. It could be something left over from… Huntress Skyfire…. This… this is only one POSSIBLE future, after all…”

“Uh-huh. And it has NOTHING to do with you playing Settlers of Catan with Klipspringer ALL last weekend?”
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Final Quest #21
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Final Quest #21    Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptySun Jun 04, 2017 8:20 pm
I don't think it will be Door - too early. He's probably needed for the next/last big dramatic crises before the final decisions are made and the big take-off happens. Unless the Door problem will be solved in issue #20 ... or Door and Humans attack simultaniously.

But ... what doing with the last three issues then?

*still waiting for Skywise and/or Timmain and/or Leetah dying* ... but it's too early for such a loss, I guess? And since the last chapter of FQ I don't consider Leetah's physical death anymore.


In FQ #19 is this strange "talk out scene" between Cutter and Timmain she said "NOW TIMMAIN CAN GO." Does anyone understand this? Will this half page be all we will get? "You found the Firstcomer Troll and talked him into coming to the Palce. Everythisn is fine now." "Yeah, we can be best soul-buddies." Seriously, I don't get this talk about Timmain going, Tam staying ... @_@

Is it a hint that Timmain will die? Or just another loose end or misleading?
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Final Quest #19
LurkingCat

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Final Quest #19    Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyWed Mar 29, 2017 4:43 am
Yeah... Here is the message:
http://elfquest.com/final-quest-issue-19-release-date-update/[/mention] wrote:
From Dark Horse: “Final Quest #19 is in fact coming out tomorrow 3/29/17. This is a failure on our side to make sure that the new schedule was in place with everyone here at Dark Horse with enough time to pull it from the pipeline. We thought that this was handled by our scheduling, print and production team. … So EQFQ #19 is out tomorrow (March 28, 2017). What this means for the rest of the schedule doesn’t change. EQFQ #20 will arrive June 28th. So the three month gap will arrive between #19 and #20. The rest of the schedule is in place for #20-24 to lead us to the final Feb. 28th 2018 release for #24. But the 3 month gap we had hoped to come between #18 and #19 will come between #19 and #20.”

There you have it. I’m sure there will be the usual scrambling to download the digital version, as well as the usual observance of spoiler rules for those who are waiting for the print edition. The lesson in all this? Once in a while, the Palace blows up, and then behind the scenes we work our butts off to put it back together. All is well now.
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Final Quest #20
LurkingCat

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Final Quest #20    Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyMon Mar 20, 2017 6:54 am
Cover and teaser for Final Quest #20 are released. It's coming out June 28th:
http://elfquest.com/cover-art-of-elfquest-final-quest-20-released/

Cover:
 



Teaser Text:
 
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Elfquest and the Lack of Cake
Davrille

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Elfquest and the Lack of Cake    Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyWed Dec 07, 2016 4:02 pm
This is an essay I wrote for the Livejournal community "elfquest" back in 2006. I found it poking around an old fanclub email list, and thought some folks might find it interesting.

Elfquest and the Lack of Cake

Part One
Some months ago, I ordered copies of the original comic series: the last four issues. Purely for nostalgia. A few weeks after that, I was talking with a friend of mine** about writing and characterization, and she used Elfquest as an example of a story having an "icing" layer, and a "cake" layer. The "icing" is the obvious story; the "cake" is the deeper meaning and questions the author has put into the story. Up until the last five issues, June said, the comic had a hefty chunk of "cake" to go with the "icing". After that, however, the "cake" disappeared.

I asked her what she meant. She brought up the deeper detail the novel /Journey to Sorrow's End/ went into, and then, to my surprise, the orgy.

Why? I asked

Her answer: because it was completely contradictory to the sexual mores Wendy had set up in the previous issues.

Up until issue #17, there was no indication the elves, particularly the Wolfriders and Sunfolk, had orgies. There was no indication the elves joined with anyone except their lifemates after lifemating. Before lifemating, yes. This was even mentioned in an interview Wendy did "in character" as Skywise and Cutter for a 'zine back in the 1980s: there was no sense of shame or impropriety if Foxfur, say, wanted to be with Skywise one night, and someone else the next.

Having multiple lifemates doesn't count.(As Savah said, "though it is not a common practice, others in the village have taken more than one mate!") The implication is still you're supposed to be monogamous with the people to whom you're lifemated. And later, in /JtSE/ Leetah thinks, "And unbreakable alliances tend to limit one's freedom."

Finally, Dewshine's Recognition to Tyldak. The obstacle isn't simply the mutual dislike between the two, it's the expectation that she'll lifemate with him. But if joining with someone other than one's lifemate(s) -- even once -- is acceptable, why was there a problem? Cultural expecations? Possibly. I'd argue (as June did) that part of those cultural expectations was monogamous lifemating.

That changed in issue 17, with no build-up, and very little follow-up reflection from the elves.

Why?

I think Wendy was tired. It was the last leg of the race, and from comments in the newsletters and letters column about having to remind herself that "this(the comic) is fun. I'm having fun.", she just wanted to get it done. On top of that, IIRC she was having problems with her health, too, at that time.

An understandable feeling. But I miss the cake.

Part Two

I'm going to start in the original series, then jump around to the later ones, for reasons that will become clear.


Besides the orgy, June mentioned the Go-Backs and Two-Edge as being part of the lack of cake in the last five issues of the original series. She didn't go into detail as she had with the orgy, as we got talking about again about the desire to just wrap something up and Be Done With It. Since then, however, and especially since writing part one of this essay, I've reread the the last five issues, and I think I have an idea of what she meant.


For June, Two-Edge was a letdown. He wasn't, in the end, the cool, mysterious character Wendy had painted since issue seven. He was just insane.

I can see her argument. It isn't until SaBM and later Shards that we see anything more to Two-Edge than the insane master smith who has, as one wag said in the letter column of issue #20, "one heck of a way of flipping a coin!" Unfortunately, even in Shards (and the brief glimpse of Two-Edge in Jink) he seems to become the maniacal madman whenever the plot needs it, whether it makes sense or not.


As with Two-Edge, no real detail here from June, just the comment that the Go-Backs didn't get the amount of "cake" beneath the "frosting" that the other tribes did. In my recent re-reading, I noticed something that led me to agree with her. With the other tribes, there's some indication in the story, verbal or nonverbal, that the tribe's way of life and philosophy has its good and bad points.

The peace offered by the Sun Village allows Redlance to manifest his plantshaping magic. In issue 6, Cutter says that "Some of you, like Rainsong here, have almost become Sun Folk yourselves!" In issue 8, Nightfall says Leetah has the right to raise the twins according to her own customs. The downside of the Sun Folk's culture becomes clear in the next issue, and is voiced aloud by Leetah later on: the Sun Folk had become too dependent on Leetah's healing, and that dependence had weakened them.

Because of how they're introduced, and Winnowill's machinations afterward, the Gliders are portrayed as being Bad Guys right from the start. Clues that the tribe isn't so one-side are subtle. That they've made a peace (to their advantage, but peace nonetheless) with the local humans the Ho'an G'tay Sho is only briefly touched on, as is the level of comfort and artistry they live with. Even Skywise says, "Blue Mountain /is/ a world of its own -- and it's fantastic!" His statement that Brace, Door and Egg have "become what they do" is wrong was explained in a latter issue's letter column as being the Wolfriders' perspective -- not necessarily the authors' statement.

The Go-Backs don't get anything like this.

Though we're told the Wolfriders "soon discover that they have much in common with their hardy hosts", that's the closest to a positive trait the Go-Backs are given. There's only one acknowledgement from the Wolfriders that their pragmatic, unsentimental view of war is necessary: when Cutter prevents Leetah from healing one of the ambushed trolls.

The brutality of war aside, the Go-Backs aren't given nods for any traits unconnected with fighting. They're adaptable, often in ways the other tribes aren't. They're the one tribe able to breed consistently without Recognition. They've managed to carve out homes in a harsh
climate without the aid of magic. They tan and dye leather, domestitcated elk, learned to work metal enough to make "daggered horns" for their elk. The only thing that comes close to this is Kahvi's question to Clearbrook: "Who knows how good the being is, once this armor, the body, is laid aside?"

In the original series, the Go-Backs got the short end of the stick, I think. In the series to follow, it gets worse. They're made into Wolfriders-sans-wolfblood, "redeemed" by being Two-Spear's Revenge, but with far less brains and collective personality. This idea not only shortchanges the Go-Backs, but makes the idea of removing wolf-blood commonplace, undercutting the horror that was supposed to be in Winnowill's "purification" of Windkin in SaBM. When all's said and done, I think Warp would been better to stick to the original timeline printed in issue #21: the elk-followers who would become the Go-Backs began long before Timmain became a wolf.

And then there's Kahvi. As chief of the Go-Backs, she had the most characterization of the tribe in the original series: the most "cake" out of all them, if you will. Kahvi wasn't my favorite character, but I thought she was an interesting foil to Cutter, Savah and Winnowill alike. Then, in the following series, specifically the horrid _Kahvi_miniseries, her character is sliced, diced, practically turned into Julian fries, and only "redeemed" by acknowledging her wolf-blood. Kathy told me in a conversation once, "That's not the character I fell in love with."

That's not the character I found interesting, either.
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: "How Come I Never Noticed...?"
namuhna

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: "How Come I Never Noticed...?"    Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTue Jun 07, 2016 11:09 am
Thank!
I also wondered about Redmark saving Bearclaw, I faintly remembered that something was added but I thought it was just Nightfall talking about soulnames, not the entire scene!
Now that I know it doesn't quite flow with the story tho, but the scene is still very good and necessary and I'm glad it's included.

But back to noticing things, I was going to mention Nightfall actually, when Kahvi strikes Cutter and he reaches for new moon but instead smirks and tells her he's going to keep the scar, Nightfall did NOT like that at all! Her in the background there is the grumpiest face I've ever seen on her I think! That's one of the things that you might notice and fits in with the flow of the story (just keeping things on edge even tho Cutter deals well with it) but when considering what happens in the future it gets a new meaning.

I'm really loving going through these issues right now, I'm looking for clues and playing detective and everything between #11 and #20 is just delightful to revisit. I really do not like the first issues, and I'm not too fond of Siege, so this is the bit I usually get stuck on when I have my rereads, and I could probably talk forever about things that I may or may not have noticed before but I find new meaning in now and notice in a different way.... maybe I need a new thread or something....
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Final Quest #11
Davrille

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Final Quest #11    Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyThu Sep 24, 2015 11:36 am
The one-soul-two-bodies has been mentioned before, back in Journey to Sorrow's End. Trying to explain Recognition to Dewshine and Scouter, Treestump says something like "You become one soul in two bodies. Even death won't sever the bond."He paused. "Believe me, I know."

I'm not sure what we saw on the last page was Recognition, however. In the original #20, Strongbow rejected Timmain when she innocently threatened to touch his soul name while sending to him. Cutter's not as strong a sender as Strongbow, and moreover, he wouldn't think to preemptively push her away, or put up "Don't go here!" signs. He'd expect her to just respect them out of hand.

I'm wondering, too, if the whole exchange about spirits and skins flying free is implying that Cutter's spirit could be pulled into the Cutter-shaped Timmain after he dies.

There's a lot going on in this issue on the subject of choice. Timmain's attitude toward choice seems to be "Choice for me, but not for thee", and it's eerie to see Skywise's "All elves MUST become immortal!" And that the healers should be coerced into making them so. What, one fuck from Timmain and his opinion completely changes?

And the way Timmain is silent and plays with his hair after he says, "All the High Ones' children! No one should stay behind! I couldn't bear it!" ... she's got this "Oh, you sweet summer child" expression. I was dubious at first with all the "Timmain's getting creepy/Timmain's a monster", but ... . Unless Wendy really pulls off an amazing explanation of Timmain's motives, I think that's how the character really is going to come across, regardless of whether or not that was the intent.

I don't think Dart and Mender are lifemates yet, but they're a couple/in the process of becoming one.

And now I will forever caption that part of Dart's memory as "seductively eating eggplant." Pike Rolling

At this point, I don't care what happens to the Wavedancers. They're all rather meh.

On retconning and "I had this allplanned out": The last is obviously false. The Pinis have said themselves the story changed! Quickblade and Starjumper became Suntop and Ember. Winnowill was just supposed to be a minor character in one issue who stirred up trouble and then disappeared.

I do think there is a lot of retconning going on, partially influenced by the story they want to tell now, and partly to get rid of supposed canon that other people created -- the Kahvi storyline for example. (If you read the letters column, there's even a comment in a reply that Warp may prune some branches of the comic's 'tree' now and then.) I think Wendy's dabbling in New Age philosophy (she shows all the signs of ignoring the bad parts of, that's why I say she dabbles in it) is influencing her writing, and that's bad for the story. I saw it happen with Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover, which went from being a medieval society with psionics that had a scientific background, to a medieval society with New Age and Wiccan mysticism.
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: REFERENCE : MAGIC IN ELFQUEST
PCoquelin

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: REFERENCE : MAGIC IN ELFQUEST    Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTue Sep 08, 2015 10:41 am
Here, for reference, I shall gather and present the exact and distinct scenes of magic-use, up to 'The Discovery'.
I will show only the scenes drawn by Wendy, because her work should have precedence..
..and because they are necessarily 'canon'.


Original Quest - #1 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P01_Gliding_HighOne : Gliding (High One)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P02_Sending_WolfSend : Sending (Wolf Send)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P03_Sending_GroupSend : Sending (Group Send : call)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P04_Sending_GroupVisionSharing : Sending (Group Send : Sharing a vision

Original Quest - #2 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P05_Sending_IndividualCall : Sending (Individual call)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P06_Recognition : Recognition
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P07_HypnoticTranceonelf : Hypnotic trance (on elf)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P08_EmotionFeeling : Emotion feeling
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P09_Healing : Healing
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P10_LightControl : Light control

Original Quest - #3 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P11_ShapeChanging_OnObject_PossibleMindManipulation : Very probable shape-changing magic highly charged on object (the 'Great Sun' item behind Savah shows changing patterns) - possible mind manipulation
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P12_Levitation_OnObject : Levitation (on object)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P13_HypnoticTrance_OnAnimal : Hypnotic trance (on animal)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P14_Levitation_OnAnimal : Levitation (on animal)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P15_PossibleTruthTelling : Possible Truth-telling
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P16_Sending_MindProbe : Mind Probe
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_SelfLevitationThoughtLost : Information : self-levitation was thought to be a lost power, among the Sun Folk

Original Quest - #4 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P17_Sending_DarkSend : Sending (Dark Send)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P18_PossibleEmotionControl_OrEvenMore : Possible emotion control (or more)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_PoolOfStagnantMagic : Information : Magic can stagnate and turn into a monstruosity
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P19_MagicBornMonster_CombinationOfPowers : Magic monster (COMBINING powers)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P20_Sending_SpecialCall : Sending (Special, intense, intimate call)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P21_Sending_SpecialCall_ByMonster : Sending (Special call, by monster)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P22_ProbableWatchingOver : Probable Watching over (by a dead elf, over a living one)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P23_ResistanceToDarkSend : Resistance to Dark Send

Original Quest - #5 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P24_PlantGrowth : Plant Growth
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P24_SoulName : Soul Name
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P25_TelescopicVision : Telescopic Vision
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P26_MindControl_OnAnimal : Mind Control (on animal, pretended
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P26_MindControl_OnAnimal_Confirmed : Mind Control (on animal, confirmed)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P27_28_MindSearch_VisualProjection : Mind Search + Visual Projection + Voice Projection (probable - or a special form of Sending)

Original Quest - #6 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P29_GoingOut : 'Going Out'
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P30_31_PlantControl_MagicFeeling : Plant Control + Magic Feeling
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P32_Sending_LockSend_Challenge : Sending (Lock-Send - Challenge

Original Quest - #7 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P33_TreeShaping : Tree Shaping
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P34_Sending_FromElfToWolf : Sending (from elf to wolf)

Original Quest - #8 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P35_MagicFeeling_Faint : Magic Feeling (faint - familiar setting)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P35_MagicFeeling_Faint2 : Magic Feeling (confirmed - non familiar setting)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P36_MentalLink : Mental Link
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P37_MentaGuiding : Mental Guiding

Original Quest - #9 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P38_MagicFeeling_Confirmed : Magic Feeling (confirmed)

Original Quest - #10 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P39_PreserversCocoons : Magic of the preservers' cocoons
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P40_Sending_SpecialIntimateCall_Confirmed : Sending (Special, intimate, intense call - confirmed)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P41_Sending_CallingBackImages : Sending (Calling back images)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P42_PossiblePremonition : Possible premonition
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P43_LockedWarning : Locked warning
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P44_MagicallyCreatedSpecies : Preservers: a magically created species
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P45_Sending_DarkSendTorture : Sending (Dark Send - Torture)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P46_TreeShaping_LivingWoodIntoObject : Tree Shaping (living wood into an object)

Original Quest - #11 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P47_Sending_DarkSend_Stun : Sending (Dark Send - Stun)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P48_RockShaping_Dedicated_Door1 : Rock Shaping (dedicated - Door effect)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P49_Sending_DarkSend_PiercingBack : Sending (Dark Send - Piercing back)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P50_Sending_GroupCallToOne : Sending (Group call to one)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P51_AntiHealing : Anti-Healing
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P52_Sending_MultiTargetDarkSend_LeetahsRemark : Sending (Dark Send - multi-targetted) + Leetah's remark on anti-healing
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P53_Gliding_Gliders : Gliding (Blue Mountain's Gliders)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P54_Sending_DarkSendKill : Sending (Dark Send - Kill)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P55_Healing_ImprovisedShield : Healing (as an improvised Shield)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P56_ProbablePryingOnSendings : Probable Prying on Sendings

Original Quest - #12 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_LockedWarningIsVisual : Information : Locked Warning is mainly made of visual elements and feelings
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_Shaping_Healing_Same : Information : Shaping and Healing are basically the same type of magic
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P58_LethargicSemiDeadState_RockShaping_Dedicated : Semi-dead state Lethargy - used to enforce dedication of magic (here: VERY dedicated and limited Rock Shaping task)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P59_FleshShaping : Flesh Shaping
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P60_Sending_LockSend2 : Sending (Lock Send)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P61_Sending_IntenseForcingSend : Sending (Intense, focussed, forcing)

Original Quest - #13 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_GoingOutComesWithDeadlyRisks : Information : Going Out comes with deadly risks
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P62_EmotionFeelingOrMore : Emotion Feeling or more
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P63_Sending_DeepSending : Sending (Deep Sending)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P64_SoulNameAbuse : Soul Name abuse
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P65_ProbableHARDMetalShaping : Probable HARD metal Shaping
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_AncientTypesOfMagic : Information : Ancient types of magic
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P66_CombinedMagic_RockShaping_Levitation_Complex_Dedicated_MemoryEffect : Combined magic : Rock Shaping + Levitation (complex, dedicated, + History effect)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P67_SymbolicAndMemoryEffect : Information : Symbolic and memory effect, for the Egg
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P68_Semi-deadMagicalLethargyHelpedWithPotion : Information : Magical semi-dead Lethargy helped by a potion
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_HealingTellsMuchAboutGenetics : Information : Healing tells much about genetics
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P69_ResistanceToDarkSend : Resistance to Dark Send (killing version)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P70_CompleteSelfShaping_Plant_HighOne : Complete Self-Shaping (Plant - High One)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P71_CompleteSelfShaping_Animal_HighOne_INTER-BREEDING : Complete Self-Shaping (animal - High One) + Magically induced INTER-BREEDING
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P72_ProbableMindManipulation : Information : Probable Mind Manipulation

Original Quest - #14 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_RecognitionRevealsTheSoul : Information : Recognition reveals the soul
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P73_MindControl_Oblivion : Sending (Dark Send) - Mind Control (Oblivion)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P74_GoingOut_SpiritCapture : Going Out (Spirit Capture)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P75_SendingAndGoingOut_SpecialMindProbe : Sending and Going Out (Spirit Seeking)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P76_FleshShaping_OnAnimal : Flesh Shaping (on animal)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P77_TreeShaping_StrangleweedVinesIntoLivingTrap : Tree Shaping (turning strangleweed vines into a living trap)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P78_PlantControl : Plant Control
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P79_GoingOut_MindTouch : Going Out (Mind Touch)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P80_MentalHealing : Healing (Mental Healing)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P81_ProbableNearDeathAutoHealing : Probable Near-Death Auto Healing

Original Quest - #15 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P82_Sending_OpenSending_Vision : Open Sending (Sharing a vision)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P83_MagicAura_MagicVisualDetection : Magic Aura (Visual Detection of magic)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P84_SoulNameExchange : Exchange of Soul names

Original Quest - #16 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P85_WatchingOver_Confirmed : Watching Over (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P86_MagicFeeling : Magic Feeling
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P87_HypnoticTrance_OnTroll : Hypnotic Trance (on troll)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P88_Gliding_RoughVersion : Gliding (rough version)

Original Quest - #17 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P89_Gliding_AtDistance_SomeoneElse : Gliding (floating someone else at distance)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P90_CallOfThePalace_Confirmed : Call of the Palace (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P91_PossiblePremonition : Possible Premonition
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P92_SoulNameOffering : Soul Name offering
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P93_PreserverPremonition : Possible Premonition (preserver)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P94_Gliding_HeavyCharge : Gliding (heavy charge)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P95_ProbableHardMetalShaping : Possible Hard Metal Shaping ('fusing metal to stone')

Original Quest - #18 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P96_RockShaping_CombinedToShapePalacesStone : Rock Shaping (combined to shape the Palace's stone)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P97_StoneFeeling : Stone Feeling

Original Quest - #19 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P98_Sending_Link : Sending (Link)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P99_Gliding_ExtremeWeightLifting : Gliding (lifting extreme weight)

Original Quest - #20 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P100_ForcedRecognition : Forced Recognition
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P101_SpiritFeeling_HighOne : Spirit Feeling (High One)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_DeadSpirits : Information : Dead elf spirits choose or not where they go
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_Recognition_ThoseBornFromItAttractInterestedSpirits : Information : those born out of Recognition attract interested spirits
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P102_ExtremeLongevity_Preservers : Extreme Longevity (preservers)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P103_104_105_MindLinking_VisualEffects_CocoonsThinkDo : Mind Linking + Visual Effects + Preserver cocoon's Think-Do + support by the 'Scroll' item, heavily charged with magic
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_SourceAndNatureOfMagic : Information : Source and nature of magic
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P106_GoingOut_HighOnes : Going Out (High Ones)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_OriginOf_Palace_Trolls_Preservers : Information : Origin of the Palace, of trolls and of preservers
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P107_PreserversCocoons_ThinkDo : Preserver cocoon's Think-Do effect + 'out of time' effect
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P108_MentalLink_FromAfar : Mental Link (from afar)


Siege at Blue Mountain - #1 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P109_WinnowillCaseSeenAsEternalDanger : Possible Resistance to the Palace's call of dead spirits
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P110_PowerAbsorption_EggAsSupport : Power absorption (with the Egg as a support)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #2 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P111_SendingDetection_LongRange : Sending Detection (long range)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P112_SubmissionByUseOfSoulName : Mental Submission (by use of the Soul Name)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P113_MindProbeByMindTouch : Mind Probe (by the use of Mind Touch)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P114_GlidingWhileAsleep : Gliding (while asleep!)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #3 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P115_DarkSendWhileGoingOut : Dark Send while Going Out!

Siege at Blue Mountain - #4 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P116_MentalHealing_CalmingDown : Mental Healing (calming down)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_MagicAsleepInHumans : Information : magic is asleep in humans
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P117_GeneticChange : Genetic Change

Siege at Blue Mountain - #5 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P118_ConcentratingMagicIntoItem : Concentrating magic into an item
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P119_MagicFeeling_InHumans : Magic Feeling (in humans!)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P120_Gliding_ProbablyEvenInCocoons : Gliding (very probably even inside cocoons!)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P121_GeneticChange_Confirmed_WithLimits : Genetic Change (confirmed - with limits)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P122_RockShapingAndFloating_HugeMagicFocussing : Power Concentration (huge rock-shaping + floating)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P123_Sending_GatheredPowerToDemonstrateDarkSend : Gathering Power (Sending - demonstrating Dark Send)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #6 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P124_Sending_Limitation_Cocoons : Sending (gliders - strange limitation - preservers' cocoons)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P125_SendingAnalysis_Emotions : Sending Analysis (emotions)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_ControlLinkedWithNeed : Possible information on magic - Control may be linked with need
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P126_SameSoulForTwoBodies_TrickOrReality : Same Soul for two bodies (possible reality / probable Mind Control trick)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P127_TreeShaping_AntiFireEffect : Tree Shaping - Anti-fire effect (+ effect of love on magic)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #7 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P128_MindControlTrick_MoreProbable : Mind Control trick (more probable)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P129_EggAsAMemoryHolder_Confirmed : Egg as a memory holder (like the Scroll of colors - confirmed)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P130_EffectOfWillOnGroupMagic_Focus : Effect of will on group magic (focus)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P131_MentalHealing_EmotionsAndNeed : Mental Healing (emotions and need)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P132_WhatGroupMagicCanAccomplish : What group magic can accomplish
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P133_EggMeantToAbsorbThePalaceAndSpirits_POWER_HUNGER : Egg meant to ABSORB the Palace, the elf spirits inside it, and their power
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P134_SpaceAndTimeTravel_GroupMagic : Space and time travel (group magic)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #8 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P135_MindControlTrick_Confirmed : Mind Control trick (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P136_GroupMagicVersusOne : Group magic versus one (+ interesting remark: 'they KNOW her')
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P137_TruthInSending : Truth in Sending (Wolfrider savagery)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P138_MentalHealing_WakingPowersUp : Mental Healing (waking powers up)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P139_Healing_BOTHElfAndHumanAtTheSameTime : Healing (BOTH human and elf, at the same time!)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P140_InterestingAfterEffect : Information : interesting after-effect
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P141_SpiritHosting : Spirit Hosting
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P142_TheOnlyDifferenceIsLove_ProbableKeyForMagic : The only difference is love (probable key for magic)


Kings of the Broken Wheel - #1 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P143_StrangeGeneticEffects : Magic causes strange genetic effects
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P144_MentalHealing_MagicFeeling_ByPreservers : Magic Feeling (by preservers)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P145_FireMagic_HeatingWave_GroupMagic : Fire Magic (Heat Wave - Group magic - by GLIDERS!)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P146_Floating_StoppingHugeBolt_ExtremeStrength_GroupMagic : Floating (used for stopping the huge bolt) + EXTREME STRENGTH (manipulating that heavy bolt) (Group magic)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P147_FireMagic_Bolts_GroupMagic : Fire magic (Bolts - group magic - gliders or linked to Rayek)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P148_Shield_GroupMagic : Shield (group magic)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P149_MentalLinkPlusSpecificEventTriggersMore : Mental Link + specific event near the Palace = triggering of a special effect

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #2 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P150_FireMagicMorePowerfulInTimmain : Information : Timmain has more powerful fire magic than group
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P151_FireMagic_HUGEEnergyBolts_GroupMagic : Fire Magic (HUGE energy bolts - causing a huge chasm - group magic
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P152_FreeingSpiritsToThePalaceRestoredIt_GroupMagic : Freeing the dead gliders' spirits restores the Palace

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #3 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P153_ShapeChanging_InsidePreserverCocoon_TearingItApart : Shape Changing (High One - inside a preserver cocoon - confirmed as incredible feat)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P154_Sending_FromFarAwayAndIntense : Sending (from far away and intensely so)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P155_Flying_PalacePower : Flying (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P156_ReintegratingEvenAnUnwillingHighOne_PalacePower : Reintegrating even an unwilling High One (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P157_ExtremeVelocityTravel_PalacePower : Extreme Velocity Travel (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P158_EmotionTransfer_SpiritMagic : Emotion Transfer (Spirits power)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P159_EmotionTransferConfirmed_SpiritMagic_KureelBarelyRemembered : Emotion Transfer (confirmed + Interesting remark: dead elves barely remember, even recent and extreme events, like murder!

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #4 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P160_WakingUpPowers_PalaceMagic : Waking powers up (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P161_MagicVision_PalaceMagic : Magic Vision (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P162_MindControl_ForcedSleep : Mind Control (forced sleep)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P163_Healing_AnotherUseOfMagic_sigh : Healing (another use of magic.. *sigh*)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P164_RockShaping_PalaceNotSoDifficultNow : Rock Shaping (..the Palace - not so difficult, now!)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P165_SendingTheCryOut_InsideThePalace : Sending the Cry out (inside the Palace)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P166_RockShaping_Palace_SeparatingAPieceOfThePalace : Rock Shaping (..the Palace - SEPARATING a piece of it!)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P167_DisguisingThePalace : Disguising the Palace (interesting 'A PART of the new land' call..)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #5 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P168_MindTransfer : Mind Transfer
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P169_MentalHealing_ShuttingMentalDoor : Mental Healing (Shutting mental door)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P170_Shield_PalaceInducedPower : Shield (Palace-induced power)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P171_PalaceInducedEffects : Palace-induced effects
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P172_WaterControl_OneSoulSharedHypothesisConfirmed : Water Control (Winnowill - so soon after her exile on that island!)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #6 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P173_MagicFeeling_Extreme_HearingCryBeyondTime : Magic Feeling (Extreme: Hearing a mental cry from beyond time!)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P174_LightControl_VisualEffects_Scroll : Light Control (visual effects - Scroll magic)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P175_LinkWithLittlePalace : Link with the little Palace
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P176_MindLinkingFromAfar_WaterBreathing_SoSoonAfterHerExile : Mind Link (from afar) + Water Breathing (so soon after her exile on that island!)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P177_TimeJump_PalacePower : Time Jump (Palace power)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #7 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P178_MentalCall_Extreme : Mental Call (Extreme)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P179_MentalShield : Mental Shield
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P180_LockSending_FacilitatingBirth : Lock Sending (facilitating birth - without a healer)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P181_MentalShield_ConfirmedAndDevelopped : Mental Shield (confirmed and developped)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #8 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P182_RockShaping_DeterminingAMountainsAging : Rock Shaping (Determining a mountain's aging)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P183_AntiHealing_DrivenByHatred : Anti-Healing (driven by hatred)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P184_Healing_LeprosisLikeTerminalDiseaseInHuman : Healing (a human - leprosis-like terminal disease)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P185_AntiHealing_Controlled : Anti-healing (controlled)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P186_GeneticChange_RemovingTheWolfBlood : Genetic Change (removing the wolf blood from a wolfrider)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P187_EscapingMindLinkAndSendings : Escaping Mind Link and Sending

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #9 :
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P188_WaterSurge : Water Surge
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P189_WaterSwirl : Water Swirl
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P190_WaterRam : Water Ram
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P191_MentalShield_EvolvedIntoMentalBarriersAndMentalSubmission : Mental Shield (Evolved into Mental Barriers and Mental Submission)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P192_Healing_AtDistance_PowerOfLove : Healing (at distance - power of love + Palace)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P193_TimeJump_BackInTime_PalacePower : Time Jump (back in time - Palace power)

Hidden Years #1:
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P194_Premonition_NotEvenWatching : Premonition (not even watching the target!)

Hidden Years #2:
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P195_FireMagic_CreatingFlames : Fire magic (Creating flames)

Hidden Years #4:
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P196_RockShaping_Bridge_PalacePower : Rock Shaping (Bridge - Palace power)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P197_DetectingHumans_PalacePower : Detecting humans around (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P198_WinnowillEntrapped_HypnoticTranceAndPalacePower : Winnowill in hypnotic trance and entrapped within the Palace's walls
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P200_FragmentsOfThePalace_Lost : Fragments of the Palace (lost..)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P199_Healing_CombinedPowersAndPalace : Healing (at distance - many at once - combined powers + Palace effect)

Hidden Years #5:
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P201_Recognition_MentalLink : Recognition (Mental Link effect)

Hidden Years #9½:
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P202_WinnowilShakenOutOfHerTranceByCuttersDeepHatredSending : Winnowill shaken out of her trance by Cutter's hating send
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P203_SendingAsTheVeryAdequatePunishment : Sending.. as the most adequate punishment ever!


Shards #16:
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P204_SoulEntrapment : Soul Entrapment
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P205_WatchingOver_VisuallyConfirmed : Watching Over (visually confirmed)


The Searcher and the Sword:
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P206_HumanSending : Sending (Complete Imagery, BY HUMAN)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P207_PreserverCocoon_ToLearnFromThePalace : Preserver cocoon magic (to LEARN from the Palace)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P208_DeadElfSpiritCalling : Deal elf spirit Calling (confirmed)


The Discovery:
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P209_MagicChanneling_confirmed : Magic Channelling (confirmed) + Learning in preserver cocoon (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P210_MagicShaping_PalacePower : Magic Shaping (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P211_GoingOutWhileCocoonedAndProjectingAMentalImage : Going Out while cocooned and projecting a mental image from afar!
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P212_NoHidingEmotions : Information: no hiding emotions while in this..
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P213_AstralFlight_CalledByLove : Astral Flight (called by love)
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P214_WaterSurge : Water Surge
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P215_HugeSpiralingWaterSurge : HUGE spiraling Water Surge!
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt P216_WaterRope : Water Rope
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_UsButNotUs_AGAIN : 'Us but not us..' - reminds of Cutter's remarks.. WHAT KIND OF ELF IS WINNOWILL, ACTUALLY!?..
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt INFO_InThousandsOfYears : 'In THOUSANDS of years' !!
Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Final Quest #10
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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Final Quest #10    Topics tagged under 20 on Father Tree Holt EmptyWed Jul 29, 2015 8:47 pm
@TrollHammer wrote:

If, indeed, FQ is only 24 issues, well that puts a whole different slant on the pacing for me.
I had thought that the story arc for FQ would be quite a bit bigger than what would fit into 24 issues.
I had wondered about it before,but until I read Manga's post about a 24 issue limit (quoted in another post), I didnt want to assume the worst.  It tells me that MAYBE they dont have the page-space to dwell on some of the relatively "minor" stuff (stuff that used to make the OQ so interesting and fun to read) to get the meat and potatoes finished by the end, if you will.


The Original Quest ran 20 issues. Just 4 less than Final Quest.
The Original Quest was their first real dive into comics (not sure if Wendy had done writing elsewhere).
And the pacing of the Original Quest is infinitely better.

The Original Quest was broke into "arcs."
The arcs were (I feel) -
1. Issues #1 through #5 (Lose home to life at the Sun Village)
2. Issues #6 through #10 (life fast forwarded w/cubs to Forbidden Grove)
3. Issues #11 through #15 (The entire Blue Mountain Saga)
4. Issues #16 through #20 (the fight against the frozen trolls for the Palace)

The Final Quest?
So far it feels like:

Arc 1: All the elves take their sweet time getting to the Palace, while over here Ember and Tier are going on and on about Recognition, and then she gets captured, and then the humans prepare for war, and let's go back to the Palace, oh by the way - all these elves arrive. And hey, new reader - look, Timmain and Skywise are Recognized! What do you mean you have no idea what that means? Or the impact?

I think you make a very good point (I forgot to quote it), that Final Quest makes NO attempt - ZERO! - to even ease any NEW readers to the series. So if someone decided to pick up ElfQuest: Final Quest, for the first time, never having heard about ElfQuest but thought the art looked great - would have NO idea from it's very first issue to understand WHAT was going on.
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