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Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: cover of Stargazers Hunt 4 released
Leanan

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: cover of Stargazers Hunt 4 released    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyFri Mar 06, 2020 6:53 am
@Embala wrote:

(You know it's really puzzling. I was introduced to a white-haired Yun in Shards #16; European coloring. Then I had to "learn" that she is a pale blonde ... only to neet her with daddy's color and style again. Full circle - or ist it a coloring mistake again?)


I think her hair looking white is a trick of the light, it's kind of a shadowy scene. I found my new avatar in the facebook group, I assume it is from a future issue, and there is a hint of yellow/beige in her hair there.
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: cover of Stargazers Hunt 4 released
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: cover of Stargazers Hunt 4 released    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySun Mar 01, 2020 9:30 am
I like this cover. Very Happy Similar to good ol' EQ it would be able to capture me - to make me dream and draw me in. Very Happy Let's see what we have:

Pike and Sust frame a welcome scene, completed by Pool in the background. Wait ... if it weren't Jink I'd take a bet that hisexpression hints pre-recognition. ^^ I'll ship those two a bit - just for fun!

Skywise's daughters meet for the first time. I like the scene - it feels lively and heartily. Poses and mimics go well together. Jink looks good wrapped in this fur ... and familiar! Remiscences of our first encounter with Timmain.
Yun ...  must have been very tired when I've spotted this picture last night *LOL* ... actually mistook her for Skywise and wondered about "his" strange jacket and and why Jink was successful at first try. XD Well - for a moment... just a moment. Rolling Eyes
(You know it's really puzzling. I was introduced to a white-haired Yun in Shards #16; European coloring. Then I had to "learn" that she is a pale blonde ... only to neet her with daddy's color and style again. Full circle - or ist it a coloring mistake again?)

Leetah looks more like a wolfrider than ever. At second glance she has this Savah-like expression and even mimics her clothing style as far as this is possible in the woods. And there is definitely a color fail ...  her furs are much too green. (okay - the complte picture turned out too green-tinged for my taste but I can handle it)

This time I welcome Cutlet. The new outfit and the slightly unruly hairstyle make him a character of his own. But - he's definitely Cutter's spawn! It's obviously cold winter outside, everybody is dressed in warming leathers and furs - and he prefers to display a bare chest and naked arms. And ... he's notorious in finding new elves! XD

In fact I'm moderate curious for this issue. Smile
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Question about SATS & FQ
Redhead Ember

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Question about SATS & FQ    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyThu Mar 22, 2018 5:23 pm
@Embala wrote:
That's definitely one part FQ has NOT retconned. ^^

SHARDS #16 contradicted the Fire-Eye storyline by showing Dodia in the Palace together with Dart's band. Mrs. Pini's original work is considered canon before works of other artists.
Furthermore Fire-Eye was stopped and Mr. Pini commented something along the lines: It took a wrong turn that will not fit with the plans we have for the further story. Non canon long before FQ.


Exactly. So many complains about retconning, yet the only obvious and blatant retconning was the retconning of what was itself basically a retconning. That was a lot of "retconning" in one sentence...
Remember our, at times rather silly if I recall correctly, discussion on the SoC about how Dodia, after arriving safe and sound in the Palace with the others, suddenly was living in the Forevergreen and being batshit crazy?
Heck, they even - rather subtly to be fair - acknowledged her pregnancy in her appearance in 'Shards'.
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Question about SATS & FQ
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Question about SATS & FQ    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyWed Mar 21, 2018 7:36 pm
That's definitely one part FQ has NOT retconned. ^^

SHARDS #16 contradicted the Fire-Eye storyline by showing Dodia in the Palace together with Dart's band. Mrs. Pini's original work is considered canon before works of other artists.
Furthermore Fire-Eye was stopped and Mr. Pini commented something along the lines: It took a wrong turn that will not fit with the plans we have for the further story. Non canon long before FQ.
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Final Quest #24
Stormcatcher

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Final Quest #24    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyThu Mar 15, 2018 1:46 pm
I wish they'd done FQ like Shards #16 - high quality pencil artwork and a narrative. Would have spared us copy and paste, awful colors and might have even improved the story.

As for what we've got...

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Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Waiting for Christmas
Embala

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Search in: ElfQuest FanArt and FanFiction   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Waiting for Christmas    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyFri Jan 26, 2018 8:32 pm
You are absolutely right with Dodia from Shards #16, G0lden. sunny European colored version - it went much better with the golden star than the original moonblue greyscale.
The unknown youngster is a Wolfrider girl from Skyfire's time - Wolfie has introduced her well.
Young Inkbottem complements the redhaired cutie you've pointed out earlier - another one of the Old Wavedancers.

And there is more, G0lden. I've started to post the "appendix of the extension" right below the calendar. Means two windows will open every day until Candlemess.

Dodia indeed! Not exactly showing belly yet obviously pregnant. She looked so sad and begging when I've told her first that she will not show up in the calendar. Another one I could not leave out. I love you
You've introduced Sapling very well, Wolfie. Nothing left to add. I'm glad you like her so much. btw: a "snowy" bauble was a must-do for this young adventurer ^^
*splashes* I know you would recognize Inkbottom! Fishy He and Shoresprout got a corresponding design.
Last not least the lovers in the sky. Another most unusual recognition I just had to add. I like that the silver star from the background can stand for Dawnbringer's sending star.
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Elfquest fashion disasters
LurkingCat

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Search in: All the Many Colors   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Elfquest fashion disasters    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyThu Sep 22, 2016 6:31 am
Seeing the Preview #16:
I add FQ Sunstream to my fashion disasters list - both: Fishelf and his purple leggins outfit (the last one could be fixed by wearing some boots?)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Final Quest #17
Zadzi

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Final Quest #17    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyThu Sep 15, 2016 10:21 pm
Preview for #16 is up, guys - I posted it in the other thread
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Final Quest #17
howler monkey

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Final Quest #17    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyWed Aug 17, 2016 5:57 pm
The cover and synopsis of issue 17 is up
http://elfquest.com/cover-art-of-final-quest-17-is-ureleased/

Not sure what to say about the cover and the synopsis is the same as #16
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Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: The Love of Final Quest
wingthing

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: The Love of Final Quest    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySun Nov 29, 2015 5:00 pm
You know what I kinda wish Wendy had done? Released the FQ in "storybook" form the way Shards #16 was done, and that one ish of Wild Hunt when Ember was exiled. That way she could have really concentrated on a few good art pieces rather than recycling all the time and outsourcing the coloring to Sonny.
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Kahvi Graphic novel (spoilers)
Aelia

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Kahvi Graphic novel (spoilers)    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySat Nov 21, 2015 3:10 pm
Do you all still think Kahvi is being considered Two-Spear's daughter? My belief is that that storyline has just been rewritten through a big fat retcon in Final Quest. As Two-Spear/Greywolf's daughter, Kahvi would have been a full-blooded Wolfrider. That certainly wasn't the case when the Go-Backs hosted the Wolfriders in OC #16. At that time, it was hinted that the two tribes shared a common origin, since they were much alike.

In Dreamtime, Nightfall told Cutter Kahvi cut her cocoon, woke her and told the story of her having wolfblood, and later Nightfall said Venka was more wolfrider than she knew herself.
In Final Quest, Nightfall says she dreamed that Kahvi woke her, and therefore Kahvi's wolfblood now is also nothing more than a dream.
Cutter said to Kahvi's spirit that he always thought that she might have a drop of wolfblood in her.

So there we are. From being a wolfrider, a storyline that was once spread out in an entire miniseries, to "might be having a drop of wolfblood", and that miniseries was just a dream.
Two-Spear's daughter, no more.
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: A Reader's Guide to ElfQuest
Embala

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Search in: All the Many Colors   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: A Reader's Guide to ElfQuest    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTue Sep 29, 2015 10:14 pm
Useful thread: A Breakdown of What's What by Skya



My Try of a Reader's Guide

It's not "the ultimative reader's guide" but good enough for a smooth read. I'll give you some information about the different series so you can decide by yourself.


Original Quest
Siege at Blue Montain
King of te Broken Wheel
Dreamtime - happens shortly after the return of the Palace ... awesome Wendy art
Hidden Years #4, #8, #9,5 and #10-15 - single issues filling gaps and giving background information for the time from the return of the Palace until the main story lines SHARDS and HIDDEN YEARS start. Read before starting with Shards and the rest of HY!

Main storyline - Shards (#1 til #15) and Hidden Years (from #16 til the end) - run parallel and influence each other.
Shards #10 / HY #24 and Shards #12 / HY #25 are directly connected - read the Shards issue before you look in the corresponding HY issue - spoiler warning!

About same time as Shards and Ember's Hidden Years storyline
New Blood #14-35 - Forevergreen Arc ... no direct connections with Shards/HY but it has necessary informations about the Sunvillagers' and Windkin's fate.
Would be no fault to read New Blood #11, #12, #13 before you start the Forevergreen Arc with NB #14.

Shards #16 gathers both the three story lines and the scattered elves.

Here you should read In All But Blood - it starts with Cutter's youth, a story about his early time in the Sunvillage, a story centering on Skywise somewhen after the return of the Palace. The last is the important one: Full Circle closes a time and knowledge gap between the end of SHARDS and the following stories ...

The Searcher and the Sword - following Cutter's tribe after Shards
Discovery - follows directly SatS

... that's what would make most sense for me to read in row from EQ1 until "present time" (= The Final Quest)


NOT on Digital EQ:
The Final Quest Prologue
Final Quest #1-24


more or less parallel with SatS / Discovery
Wild Hunt - following Ember's tribe after the Shards War
Mender's Tale (unfinished) - follows Wild Hunt
Recognition (Summer Special) - continues Wild Hunt
partly retold and more or less retconed by the Final Quest #1-2

The Forevergreen Story arc is more or less continued by
Worldpool - following some chars from the Forevergreen Arc - and
Fire-Eye (unfinished)
both probably "non-canon"



Other series and single issues

Tales from the Elves' wild past
Blood of Ten Chiefs
Two-Spear
Wolfrider! - read it!
By any other name (in the Readers Collection "In all but Blood")
Hidden Years #5, #6, #7, #9
#5 Starfall, Starrise - pre-EQ1 (story about Skywise and his parents' fate)
#6/7 How Shall I keep from Singing - High Ones' arrival and first years
#9 The Enemy's Face - story from Leetah's birth and youth
Homespun (in the Readers Collection "In all but Blood")

Spotlights on the time of the Long Wait (disappearance of the Palace until Big Sleep)
Hidden Years #1, #2, #3
#1 Wolfwood - during Long Wait (centering on Strongbow - I love it)
#2 Going Back - during Long Wait (Kahvi "visits" Sorrow's End again)
#3 Little Patch - during Long Wait (Tyleet's "cub")
The Jury (?)
New Blood #11, #12, #13
Kahvi

Background story of the Wavedancers
Wavedancers Issue #1
Wavedancers
Wavedancers - lost chapters (unfinished)
... it might be less puzzeling to read it after Discovery (some inconsistencies and retconning)

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Somewhen in not too far future
Rogue's Curse - following Rayek's journey after Shards/Final Quest

Far future
Jink
The Rebles
Futurequest (unfinished)

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I have not listed EVERYTHING here!

The rest of New Blood is a mix of Wild Past, Long Wait, various Misc stuff ... many of it considered non-canon

same for Bedtime Stories

Elfquest Volume 2 - containes stories that are mostly listed and reposted in collections (ask if you want to know more ... same for stories I missed to mention)

Kings Cross - a "What-If" / alternative universe story ...

Xanth - something totally different



There is no easy way to read through - you'll have to pick when you want to follow the timeline.

As you will notice some of the stories can be found in several topics. The Elfquest Vol. 2 issues have several ongoing stories in each issue - and then and now a single one. Many of these stories are gathered in collections:

Dreamtime, Wild Hunt, Wavedancers, Rogue's Curse, Wolfrider! to mention just a few.

You can stick with the gatherings to follow my suggestions ... Elfquest Vol. 2 is a read for completation when everything else is done in my opinion.


Don't hesitate to ask in case you need more information - or help to find some issues/collections.


Welcome to the pack Smile Enjoy and have fun! Good read! EQ
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: REFERENCE : MAGIC IN ELFQUEST
PCoquelin

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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: REFERENCE : MAGIC IN ELFQUEST    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTue Sep 08, 2015 10:41 am
Here, for reference, I shall gather and present the exact and distinct scenes of magic-use, up to 'The Discovery'.
I will show only the scenes drawn by Wendy, because her work should have precedence..
..and because they are necessarily 'canon'.


Original Quest - #1 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P01_Gliding_HighOne : Gliding (High One)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P02_Sending_WolfSend : Sending (Wolf Send)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P03_Sending_GroupSend : Sending (Group Send : call)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P04_Sending_GroupVisionSharing : Sending (Group Send : Sharing a vision

Original Quest - #2 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P05_Sending_IndividualCall : Sending (Individual call)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P06_Recognition : Recognition
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P07_HypnoticTranceonelf : Hypnotic trance (on elf)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P08_EmotionFeeling : Emotion feeling
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P09_Healing : Healing
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P10_LightControl : Light control

Original Quest - #3 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P11_ShapeChanging_OnObject_PossibleMindManipulation : Very probable shape-changing magic highly charged on object (the 'Great Sun' item behind Savah shows changing patterns) - possible mind manipulation
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P12_Levitation_OnObject : Levitation (on object)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P13_HypnoticTrance_OnAnimal : Hypnotic trance (on animal)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P14_Levitation_OnAnimal : Levitation (on animal)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P15_PossibleTruthTelling : Possible Truth-telling
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P16_Sending_MindProbe : Mind Probe
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_SelfLevitationThoughtLost : Information : self-levitation was thought to be a lost power, among the Sun Folk

Original Quest - #4 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P17_Sending_DarkSend : Sending (Dark Send)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P18_PossibleEmotionControl_OrEvenMore : Possible emotion control (or more)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_PoolOfStagnantMagic : Information : Magic can stagnate and turn into a monstruosity
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P19_MagicBornMonster_CombinationOfPowers : Magic monster (COMBINING powers)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P20_Sending_SpecialCall : Sending (Special, intense, intimate call)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P21_Sending_SpecialCall_ByMonster : Sending (Special call, by monster)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P22_ProbableWatchingOver : Probable Watching over (by a dead elf, over a living one)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P23_ResistanceToDarkSend : Resistance to Dark Send

Original Quest - #5 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P24_PlantGrowth : Plant Growth
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P24_SoulName : Soul Name
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P25_TelescopicVision : Telescopic Vision
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P26_MindControl_OnAnimal : Mind Control (on animal, pretended
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P26_MindControl_OnAnimal_Confirmed : Mind Control (on animal, confirmed)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P27_28_MindSearch_VisualProjection : Mind Search + Visual Projection + Voice Projection (probable - or a special form of Sending)

Original Quest - #6 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P29_GoingOut : 'Going Out'
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P30_31_PlantControl_MagicFeeling : Plant Control + Magic Feeling
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P32_Sending_LockSend_Challenge : Sending (Lock-Send - Challenge

Original Quest - #7 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P33_TreeShaping : Tree Shaping
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P34_Sending_FromElfToWolf : Sending (from elf to wolf)

Original Quest - #8 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P35_MagicFeeling_Faint : Magic Feeling (faint - familiar setting)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P35_MagicFeeling_Faint2 : Magic Feeling (confirmed - non familiar setting)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P36_MentalLink : Mental Link
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P37_MentaGuiding : Mental Guiding

Original Quest - #9 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P38_MagicFeeling_Confirmed : Magic Feeling (confirmed)

Original Quest - #10 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P39_PreserversCocoons : Magic of the preservers' cocoons
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P40_Sending_SpecialIntimateCall_Confirmed : Sending (Special, intimate, intense call - confirmed)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P41_Sending_CallingBackImages : Sending (Calling back images)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P42_PossiblePremonition : Possible premonition
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P43_LockedWarning : Locked warning
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P44_MagicallyCreatedSpecies : Preservers: a magically created species
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P45_Sending_DarkSendTorture : Sending (Dark Send - Torture)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P46_TreeShaping_LivingWoodIntoObject : Tree Shaping (living wood into an object)

Original Quest - #11 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P47_Sending_DarkSend_Stun : Sending (Dark Send - Stun)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P48_RockShaping_Dedicated_Door1 : Rock Shaping (dedicated - Door effect)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P49_Sending_DarkSend_PiercingBack : Sending (Dark Send - Piercing back)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P50_Sending_GroupCallToOne : Sending (Group call to one)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P51_AntiHealing : Anti-Healing
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P52_Sending_MultiTargetDarkSend_LeetahsRemark : Sending (Dark Send - multi-targetted) + Leetah's remark on anti-healing
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P53_Gliding_Gliders : Gliding (Blue Mountain's Gliders)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P54_Sending_DarkSendKill : Sending (Dark Send - Kill)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P55_Healing_ImprovisedShield : Healing (as an improvised Shield)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P56_ProbablePryingOnSendings : Probable Prying on Sendings

Original Quest - #12 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_LockedWarningIsVisual : Information : Locked Warning is mainly made of visual elements and feelings
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_Shaping_Healing_Same : Information : Shaping and Healing are basically the same type of magic
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P58_LethargicSemiDeadState_RockShaping_Dedicated : Semi-dead state Lethargy - used to enforce dedication of magic (here: VERY dedicated and limited Rock Shaping task)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P59_FleshShaping : Flesh Shaping
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P60_Sending_LockSend2 : Sending (Lock Send)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P61_Sending_IntenseForcingSend : Sending (Intense, focussed, forcing)

Original Quest - #13 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_GoingOutComesWithDeadlyRisks : Information : Going Out comes with deadly risks
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P62_EmotionFeelingOrMore : Emotion Feeling or more
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P63_Sending_DeepSending : Sending (Deep Sending)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P64_SoulNameAbuse : Soul Name abuse
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P65_ProbableHARDMetalShaping : Probable HARD metal Shaping
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_AncientTypesOfMagic : Information : Ancient types of magic
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P66_CombinedMagic_RockShaping_Levitation_Complex_Dedicated_MemoryEffect : Combined magic : Rock Shaping + Levitation (complex, dedicated, + History effect)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P67_SymbolicAndMemoryEffect : Information : Symbolic and memory effect, for the Egg
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P68_Semi-deadMagicalLethargyHelpedWithPotion : Information : Magical semi-dead Lethargy helped by a potion
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_HealingTellsMuchAboutGenetics : Information : Healing tells much about genetics
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P69_ResistanceToDarkSend : Resistance to Dark Send (killing version)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P70_CompleteSelfShaping_Plant_HighOne : Complete Self-Shaping (Plant - High One)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P71_CompleteSelfShaping_Animal_HighOne_INTER-BREEDING : Complete Self-Shaping (animal - High One) + Magically induced INTER-BREEDING
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P72_ProbableMindManipulation : Information : Probable Mind Manipulation

Original Quest - #14 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_RecognitionRevealsTheSoul : Information : Recognition reveals the soul
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P73_MindControl_Oblivion : Sending (Dark Send) - Mind Control (Oblivion)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P74_GoingOut_SpiritCapture : Going Out (Spirit Capture)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P75_SendingAndGoingOut_SpecialMindProbe : Sending and Going Out (Spirit Seeking)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P76_FleshShaping_OnAnimal : Flesh Shaping (on animal)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P77_TreeShaping_StrangleweedVinesIntoLivingTrap : Tree Shaping (turning strangleweed vines into a living trap)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P78_PlantControl : Plant Control
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P79_GoingOut_MindTouch : Going Out (Mind Touch)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P80_MentalHealing : Healing (Mental Healing)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P81_ProbableNearDeathAutoHealing : Probable Near-Death Auto Healing

Original Quest - #15 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P82_Sending_OpenSending_Vision : Open Sending (Sharing a vision)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P83_MagicAura_MagicVisualDetection : Magic Aura (Visual Detection of magic)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P84_SoulNameExchange : Exchange of Soul names

Original Quest - #16 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P85_WatchingOver_Confirmed : Watching Over (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P86_MagicFeeling : Magic Feeling
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P87_HypnoticTrance_OnTroll : Hypnotic Trance (on troll)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P88_Gliding_RoughVersion : Gliding (rough version)

Original Quest - #17 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P89_Gliding_AtDistance_SomeoneElse : Gliding (floating someone else at distance)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P90_CallOfThePalace_Confirmed : Call of the Palace (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P91_PossiblePremonition : Possible Premonition
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P92_SoulNameOffering : Soul Name offering
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P93_PreserverPremonition : Possible Premonition (preserver)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P94_Gliding_HeavyCharge : Gliding (heavy charge)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P95_ProbableHardMetalShaping : Possible Hard Metal Shaping ('fusing metal to stone')

Original Quest - #18 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P96_RockShaping_CombinedToShapePalacesStone : Rock Shaping (combined to shape the Palace's stone)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P97_StoneFeeling : Stone Feeling

Original Quest - #19 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P98_Sending_Link : Sending (Link)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P99_Gliding_ExtremeWeightLifting : Gliding (lifting extreme weight)

Original Quest - #20 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P100_ForcedRecognition : Forced Recognition
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P101_SpiritFeeling_HighOne : Spirit Feeling (High One)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_DeadSpirits : Information : Dead elf spirits choose or not where they go
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_Recognition_ThoseBornFromItAttractInterestedSpirits : Information : those born out of Recognition attract interested spirits
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P102_ExtremeLongevity_Preservers : Extreme Longevity (preservers)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P103_104_105_MindLinking_VisualEffects_CocoonsThinkDo : Mind Linking + Visual Effects + Preserver cocoon's Think-Do + support by the 'Scroll' item, heavily charged with magic
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_SourceAndNatureOfMagic : Information : Source and nature of magic
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P106_GoingOut_HighOnes : Going Out (High Ones)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_OriginOf_Palace_Trolls_Preservers : Information : Origin of the Palace, of trolls and of preservers
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P107_PreserversCocoons_ThinkDo : Preserver cocoon's Think-Do effect + 'out of time' effect
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P108_MentalLink_FromAfar : Mental Link (from afar)


Siege at Blue Mountain - #1 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P109_WinnowillCaseSeenAsEternalDanger : Possible Resistance to the Palace's call of dead spirits
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P110_PowerAbsorption_EggAsSupport : Power absorption (with the Egg as a support)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #2 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P111_SendingDetection_LongRange : Sending Detection (long range)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P112_SubmissionByUseOfSoulName : Mental Submission (by use of the Soul Name)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P113_MindProbeByMindTouch : Mind Probe (by the use of Mind Touch)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P114_GlidingWhileAsleep : Gliding (while asleep!)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #3 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P115_DarkSendWhileGoingOut : Dark Send while Going Out!

Siege at Blue Mountain - #4 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P116_MentalHealing_CalmingDown : Mental Healing (calming down)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_MagicAsleepInHumans : Information : magic is asleep in humans
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P117_GeneticChange : Genetic Change

Siege at Blue Mountain - #5 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P118_ConcentratingMagicIntoItem : Concentrating magic into an item
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P119_MagicFeeling_InHumans : Magic Feeling (in humans!)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P120_Gliding_ProbablyEvenInCocoons : Gliding (very probably even inside cocoons!)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P121_GeneticChange_Confirmed_WithLimits : Genetic Change (confirmed - with limits)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P122_RockShapingAndFloating_HugeMagicFocussing : Power Concentration (huge rock-shaping + floating)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P123_Sending_GatheredPowerToDemonstrateDarkSend : Gathering Power (Sending - demonstrating Dark Send)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #6 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P124_Sending_Limitation_Cocoons : Sending (gliders - strange limitation - preservers' cocoons)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P125_SendingAnalysis_Emotions : Sending Analysis (emotions)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_ControlLinkedWithNeed : Possible information on magic - Control may be linked with need
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P126_SameSoulForTwoBodies_TrickOrReality : Same Soul for two bodies (possible reality / probable Mind Control trick)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P127_TreeShaping_AntiFireEffect : Tree Shaping - Anti-fire effect (+ effect of love on magic)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #7 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P128_MindControlTrick_MoreProbable : Mind Control trick (more probable)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P129_EggAsAMemoryHolder_Confirmed : Egg as a memory holder (like the Scroll of colors - confirmed)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P130_EffectOfWillOnGroupMagic_Focus : Effect of will on group magic (focus)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P131_MentalHealing_EmotionsAndNeed : Mental Healing (emotions and need)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P132_WhatGroupMagicCanAccomplish : What group magic can accomplish
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P133_EggMeantToAbsorbThePalaceAndSpirits_POWER_HUNGER : Egg meant to ABSORB the Palace, the elf spirits inside it, and their power
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P134_SpaceAndTimeTravel_GroupMagic : Space and time travel (group magic)

Siege at Blue Mountain - #8 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P135_MindControlTrick_Confirmed : Mind Control trick (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P136_GroupMagicVersusOne : Group magic versus one (+ interesting remark: 'they KNOW her')
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P137_TruthInSending : Truth in Sending (Wolfrider savagery)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P138_MentalHealing_WakingPowersUp : Mental Healing (waking powers up)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P139_Healing_BOTHElfAndHumanAtTheSameTime : Healing (BOTH human and elf, at the same time!)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P140_InterestingAfterEffect : Information : interesting after-effect
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P141_SpiritHosting : Spirit Hosting
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P142_TheOnlyDifferenceIsLove_ProbableKeyForMagic : The only difference is love (probable key for magic)


Kings of the Broken Wheel - #1 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P143_StrangeGeneticEffects : Magic causes strange genetic effects
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P144_MentalHealing_MagicFeeling_ByPreservers : Magic Feeling (by preservers)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P145_FireMagic_HeatingWave_GroupMagic : Fire Magic (Heat Wave - Group magic - by GLIDERS!)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P146_Floating_StoppingHugeBolt_ExtremeStrength_GroupMagic : Floating (used for stopping the huge bolt) + EXTREME STRENGTH (manipulating that heavy bolt) (Group magic)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P147_FireMagic_Bolts_GroupMagic : Fire magic (Bolts - group magic - gliders or linked to Rayek)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P148_Shield_GroupMagic : Shield (group magic)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P149_MentalLinkPlusSpecificEventTriggersMore : Mental Link + specific event near the Palace = triggering of a special effect

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #2 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P150_FireMagicMorePowerfulInTimmain : Information : Timmain has more powerful fire magic than group
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P151_FireMagic_HUGEEnergyBolts_GroupMagic : Fire Magic (HUGE energy bolts - causing a huge chasm - group magic
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P152_FreeingSpiritsToThePalaceRestoredIt_GroupMagic : Freeing the dead gliders' spirits restores the Palace

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #3 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P153_ShapeChanging_InsidePreserverCocoon_TearingItApart : Shape Changing (High One - inside a preserver cocoon - confirmed as incredible feat)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P154_Sending_FromFarAwayAndIntense : Sending (from far away and intensely so)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P155_Flying_PalacePower : Flying (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P156_ReintegratingEvenAnUnwillingHighOne_PalacePower : Reintegrating even an unwilling High One (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P157_ExtremeVelocityTravel_PalacePower : Extreme Velocity Travel (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P158_EmotionTransfer_SpiritMagic : Emotion Transfer (Spirits power)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P159_EmotionTransferConfirmed_SpiritMagic_KureelBarelyRemembered : Emotion Transfer (confirmed + Interesting remark: dead elves barely remember, even recent and extreme events, like murder!

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #4 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P160_WakingUpPowers_PalaceMagic : Waking powers up (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P161_MagicVision_PalaceMagic : Magic Vision (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P162_MindControl_ForcedSleep : Mind Control (forced sleep)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P163_Healing_AnotherUseOfMagic_sigh : Healing (another use of magic.. *sigh*)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P164_RockShaping_PalaceNotSoDifficultNow : Rock Shaping (..the Palace - not so difficult, now!)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P165_SendingTheCryOut_InsideThePalace : Sending the Cry out (inside the Palace)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P166_RockShaping_Palace_SeparatingAPieceOfThePalace : Rock Shaping (..the Palace - SEPARATING a piece of it!)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P167_DisguisingThePalace : Disguising the Palace (interesting 'A PART of the new land' call..)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #5 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P168_MindTransfer : Mind Transfer
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P169_MentalHealing_ShuttingMentalDoor : Mental Healing (Shutting mental door)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P170_Shield_PalaceInducedPower : Shield (Palace-induced power)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P171_PalaceInducedEffects : Palace-induced effects
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P172_WaterControl_OneSoulSharedHypothesisConfirmed : Water Control (Winnowill - so soon after her exile on that island!)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #6 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P173_MagicFeeling_Extreme_HearingCryBeyondTime : Magic Feeling (Extreme: Hearing a mental cry from beyond time!)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P174_LightControl_VisualEffects_Scroll : Light Control (visual effects - Scroll magic)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P175_LinkWithLittlePalace : Link with the little Palace
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P176_MindLinkingFromAfar_WaterBreathing_SoSoonAfterHerExile : Mind Link (from afar) + Water Breathing (so soon after her exile on that island!)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P177_TimeJump_PalacePower : Time Jump (Palace power)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #7 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P178_MentalCall_Extreme : Mental Call (Extreme)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P179_MentalShield : Mental Shield
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P180_LockSending_FacilitatingBirth : Lock Sending (facilitating birth - without a healer)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P181_MentalShield_ConfirmedAndDevelopped : Mental Shield (confirmed and developped)

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #8 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P182_RockShaping_DeterminingAMountainsAging : Rock Shaping (Determining a mountain's aging)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P183_AntiHealing_DrivenByHatred : Anti-Healing (driven by hatred)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P184_Healing_LeprosisLikeTerminalDiseaseInHuman : Healing (a human - leprosis-like terminal disease)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P185_AntiHealing_Controlled : Anti-healing (controlled)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P186_GeneticChange_RemovingTheWolfBlood : Genetic Change (removing the wolf blood from a wolfrider)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P187_EscapingMindLinkAndSendings : Escaping Mind Link and Sending

Kings of the Broken Wheel - #9 :
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P188_WaterSurge : Water Surge
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P189_WaterSwirl : Water Swirl
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P190_WaterRam : Water Ram
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P191_MentalShield_EvolvedIntoMentalBarriersAndMentalSubmission : Mental Shield (Evolved into Mental Barriers and Mental Submission)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P192_Healing_AtDistance_PowerOfLove : Healing (at distance - power of love + Palace)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P193_TimeJump_BackInTime_PalacePower : Time Jump (back in time - Palace power)

Hidden Years #1:
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P194_Premonition_NotEvenWatching : Premonition (not even watching the target!)

Hidden Years #2:
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P195_FireMagic_CreatingFlames : Fire magic (Creating flames)

Hidden Years #4:
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P196_RockShaping_Bridge_PalacePower : Rock Shaping (Bridge - Palace power)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P197_DetectingHumans_PalacePower : Detecting humans around (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P198_WinnowillEntrapped_HypnoticTranceAndPalacePower : Winnowill in hypnotic trance and entrapped within the Palace's walls
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P200_FragmentsOfThePalace_Lost : Fragments of the Palace (lost..)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P199_Healing_CombinedPowersAndPalace : Healing (at distance - many at once - combined powers + Palace effect)

Hidden Years #5:
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P201_Recognition_MentalLink : Recognition (Mental Link effect)

Hidden Years #9½:
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P202_WinnowilShakenOutOfHerTranceByCuttersDeepHatredSending : Winnowill shaken out of her trance by Cutter's hating send
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P203_SendingAsTheVeryAdequatePunishment : Sending.. as the most adequate punishment ever!


Shards #16:
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P204_SoulEntrapment : Soul Entrapment
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P205_WatchingOver_VisuallyConfirmed : Watching Over (visually confirmed)


The Searcher and the Sword:
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P206_HumanSending : Sending (Complete Imagery, BY HUMAN)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P207_PreserverCocoon_ToLearnFromThePalace : Preserver cocoon magic (to LEARN from the Palace)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P208_DeadElfSpiritCalling : Deal elf spirit Calling (confirmed)


The Discovery:
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P209_MagicChanneling_confirmed : Magic Channelling (confirmed) + Learning in preserver cocoon (confirmed)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P210_MagicShaping_PalacePower : Magic Shaping (Palace power)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P211_GoingOutWhileCocoonedAndProjectingAMentalImage : Going Out while cocooned and projecting a mental image from afar!
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P212_NoHidingEmotions : Information: no hiding emotions while in this..
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P213_AstralFlight_CalledByLove : Astral Flight (called by love)
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P214_WaterSurge : Water Surge
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P215_HugeSpiralingWaterSurge : HUGE spiraling Water Surge!
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt P216_WaterRope : Water Rope
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_UsButNotUs_AGAIN : 'Us but not us..' - reminds of Cutter's remarks.. WHAT KIND OF ELF IS WINNOWILL, ACTUALLY!?..
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt INFO_InThousandsOfYears : 'In THOUSANDS of years' !!
Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyTopic: Final Quest #10
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Search in: ElfQuest Comic Discusions   Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptySubject: Final Quest #10    Topics tagged under 16 on Father Tree Holt EmptyWed Jul 29, 2015 8:47 pm
@TrollHammer wrote:

If, indeed, FQ is only 24 issues, well that puts a whole different slant on the pacing for me.
I had thought that the story arc for FQ would be quite a bit bigger than what would fit into 24 issues.
I had wondered about it before,but until I read Manga's post about a 24 issue limit (quoted in another post), I didnt want to assume the worst.  It tells me that MAYBE they dont have the page-space to dwell on some of the relatively "minor" stuff (stuff that used to make the OQ so interesting and fun to read) to get the meat and potatoes finished by the end, if you will.


The Original Quest ran 20 issues. Just 4 less than Final Quest.
The Original Quest was their first real dive into comics (not sure if Wendy had done writing elsewhere).
And the pacing of the Original Quest is infinitely better.

The Original Quest was broke into "arcs."
The arcs were (I feel) -
1. Issues #1 through #5 (Lose home to life at the Sun Village)
2. Issues #6 through #10 (life fast forwarded w/cubs to Forbidden Grove)
3. Issues #11 through #15 (The entire Blue Mountain Saga)
4. Issues #16 through #20 (the fight against the frozen trolls for the Palace)

The Final Quest?
So far it feels like:

Arc 1: All the elves take their sweet time getting to the Palace, while over here Ember and Tier are going on and on about Recognition, and then she gets captured, and then the humans prepare for war, and let's go back to the Palace, oh by the way - all these elves arrive. And hey, new reader - look, Timmain and Skywise are Recognized! What do you mean you have no idea what that means? Or the impact?

I think you make a very good point (I forgot to quote it), that Final Quest makes NO attempt - ZERO! - to even ease any NEW readers to the series. So if someone decided to pick up ElfQuest: Final Quest, for the first time, never having heard about ElfQuest but thought the art looked great - would have NO idea from it's very first issue to understand WHAT was going on.
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